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From: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
To: Yang Hongyang <yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: wei.liu2@citrix.com, wency@cn.fujitsu.com,
	andrew.cooper3@citrix.com, yunhong.jiang@intel.com,
	eddie.dong@intel.com, xen-devel@lists.xen.org,
	guijianfeng@cn.fujitsu.com, rshriram@cs.ubc.ca,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 COLOPre 16/26] tools/libx{l, c}: add back channel to libxc
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 11:42:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1435747338.21469.252.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <559352B6.2010400@cn.fujitsu.com>

On Wed, 2015-07-01 at 10:38 +0800, Yang Hongyang wrote:
> 
> On 06/30/2015 06:10 PM, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > On Thu, 2015-06-25 at 14:25 +0800, Yang Hongyang wrote:
> >> We need to send secondary's dirty page pfns back to primary.
> >
> > In v2 Ian asked (<21888.2988.774072.32946@mariner.uk.xensource.com>):
> >
> >          In the pdf
> >             http://www.socc2013.org/home/program/a3-dong.pdf?attredirects=0
> >          linked from the wiki page
> >             http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/COLO_-_Coarse_Grain_Lock_Stepping
> >          it says that the secondary keeps a copy of the original contents of
> >          its dirty pages.  So I don't understand why you need to send the dirty
> >          bitmap to the primary.
> >
> > Which I don't see an answer for in my archive. Have I missed (or
> > misplaced) the answer?
> 
> Sorry, seems that I misplaced the answer to:
> [PATCH v2 COLOPre 09/13] tools/libxl: Update libxl_save_msgs_gen.pl to support 
> return data from xl to xc
> 
>    > Thanks for this.  I would have some comments on the details, but first
>    > I want to properly understand your use case.  So while I'm the author
>    > and maintainer of this save helper, I won't review this in detail just
>    > yet.  I'm following the thread about what this is for...
> 
>      We need to send secondary's dirty page pfn back to primary. Primary will
>      then send pages that are both dirtied on primary/secondary to secondary.
>      in this way the secondary's memory will be consistent with primary.
> 
>      As we disscussed in [PATCH v2 COLOPre 04/13] tools/libxc: export xc_bitops.h
>      If we move this operation to libxc layer, this patch could be dropped.

This doesn't seem to be a response to Ian's question which I quoted
above.

The crux of the question is that the design contained in those links
does not appear to require a back channel, because it does not require a
dirty bitmap to go from secondary to primary. Asserting a need to do so
does not answer the question.

Ian.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-01 10:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-25  6:25 [PATCH v3 COLOPre 00/26] Prerequisite patches for COLO Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 01/26] tools/libxl: rename libxl__domain_suspend to libxl__domain_save Yang Hongyang
2015-06-29 15:43   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-30  9:32     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 02/26] tools/libxl: move domain suspend code into libxl_dom_suspend.c Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 03/26] tools/libxl: move domain resume " Yang Hongyang
2015-06-29 15:44   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 04/26] tools/libxl: move remus code into libxl_remus.c Yang Hongyang
2015-06-29 15:48   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-30  9:36     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 05/26] tools/libxl: move save/restore code into libxl_dom_save.c Yang Hongyang
2015-06-29 15:49   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 06/26] libxl/save: Refactor libxl__domain_suspend_state Yang Hongyang
2015-06-29 16:01   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-30  9:43     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30  9:50       ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-30 10:05         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 07/26] libxc/restore: fix error handle of process_record Yang Hongyang
2015-06-29 16:07   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-30  9:45     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-03  3:12       ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 08/26] tools/libxc: support to resume uncooperative HVM guests Yang Hongyang
2015-06-29 16:27   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-30 10:08     ` Wen Congyang
2015-06-30 10:59       ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 09/26] tools/libxl: introduce enum type libxl_checkpointed_stream Yang Hongyang
2015-06-29 16:30   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-30  9:53     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:52       ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  2:05         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-01 10:36           ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01 13:43             ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-01 14:09               ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 10/26] migration/save: pass checkpointed_stream from libxl to libxc Yang Hongyang
2015-06-29 16:33   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 11/26] tools/libxl: introduce a new API libxl__domain_restore() to load qemu state Yang Hongyang
2015-06-29 16:38   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-30 10:04     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:54       ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 12/26] tools/libxl: Update libxl_domain_unpause() to support qemu-xen Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:00   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  2:10     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-01 10:38       ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01 13:38         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 13/26] tools/libxl: introduce libxl__domain_common_switch_qemu_logdirty() Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 14/26] tools/libxl: export logdirty_init Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:01   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 15/26] tools/libxl: Add back channel to allow migration target send data back Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:07   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  2:28     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-01 10:40       ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01 13:46         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 16/26] tools/libx{l, c}: add back channel to libxc Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:10   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  2:38     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-01 10:42       ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2015-07-01 11:01         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-01 11:21           ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01 12:07             ` Ian Jackson
2015-07-01 13:56               ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-01 13:58                 ` Ian Jackson
2015-07-01 14:21               ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01 13:54           ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-01 14:03             ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-30 10:17   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  2:40     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 17/26] tools/libx{l, c}: introduce should_checkpoint callback Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:19   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  2:43     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-01 10:43       ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01 13:58         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 18/26] tools/libx{l, c}: add postcopy/suspend callback to restore side Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:21   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  2:48     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 19/26] libxc/migration: Specification update for DIRTY_BITMAP records Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:24   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  3:07     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-01 10:16       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-01 10:27         ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01 10:39           ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-01 11:00             ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-03 14:25               ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-03 14:41                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 20/26] libxc/migration: export read_record for common use Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 21/26] tools/libxl: refactor write stream to support back channel Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:28   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  5:33     ` Wen Congyang
2015-07-01 10:45       ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01 11:09         ` Wen Congyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 22/26] tools/libxl: refactor read " Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:39   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 23/26] docs/libxl: Introduce COLO_CONTEXT to support migration v2 colo streams Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:42   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  3:10     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-01 10:44       ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01 14:05         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 24/26] tools/libxl: rename remus device to checkpoint device Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:43   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  3:11     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 25/26] tools/libxl: adjust the indentation Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 26/26] tools/libxl: don't touch remus in checkpoint_device Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:50   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  3:11     ` Yang Hongyang

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