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From: Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>
To: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
Cc: Elena Ufimtseva <elena.ufimtseva@oracle.com>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: PV-vNUMA issue: topology is misinterpreted by the guest
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 16:50:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1437576645.5036.56.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55AFA41E.1080101@suse.com>


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On Wed, 2015-07-22 at 16:09 +0200, Juergen Gross wrote:
> On 07/22/2015 03:58 PM, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:

> > What if I configure a guest to follow HW topology? I.e. I pin VCPUs to
> > appropriate cores/threads? With elfnote I am stuck with disabled topology.
> 
> Add an option to do exactly that: follow HW topology (pin vcpus,
> configure vnuma)?
> 
I thought about configuring things in such a way that they match the
host topology, as Boris is suggesting, too. And in that case, I think
arranging for doing so in toolstack, if PV vNUMA is identified (as I
think Juergen is suggesting) seems a good approach.

However, when I try to do that on my box, manually, but I don't seem to
be able to.

Here's what I tried. Since I have this host topology:
cpu_topology           :
cpu:    core    socket     node
  0:       0        1        0
  1:       0        1        0
  2:       1        1        0
  3:       1        1        0
  4:       9        1        0
  5:       9        1        0
  6:      10        1        0
  7:      10        1        0
  8:       0        0        1
  9:       0        0        1
 10:       1        0        1
 11:       1        0        1
 12:       9        0        1
 13:       9        0        1
 14:      10        0        1
 15:      10        0        1

I configured the guest like this:
vcpus       = '4'
memory      = '1024'
vnuma = [ [ "pnode=0","size=512","vcpus=0-1","vdistances=10,20"  ],
          [ "pnode=1","size=512","vcpus=2-3","vdistances=20,10"  ] ]
cpus=["0","1","8","9"]

This means vcpus 0 and 1, which are assigned to vnode 0, are pinned to
pcpu 0 and 1, which are siblings, per the host topology.
Similarly, vcpus 2 and 3, assigned to vnode 1, are assigned to two
siblings pcpus on pnode 1.

This seems to be honoured:
# xl vcpu-list 4
Name                                ID  VCPU   CPU State   Time(s) Affinity (Hard / Soft)
test                                 4     0    0   -b-      10.9  0 / 0-7
test                                 4     1    1   -b-       7.6  1 / 0-7
test                                 4     2    8   -b-       0.1  8 / 8-15
test                                 4     3    9   -b-       0.1  9 / 8-15

And yet, no joy:
# ssh root@192.168.1.101 "yes > /dev/null 2>&1 &"
# ssh root@192.168.1.101 "yes > /dev/null 2>&1 &"
# ssh root@192.168.1.101 "yes > /dev/null 2>&1 &"
# ssh root@192.168.1.101 "yes > /dev/null 2>&1 &"
# xl vcpu-list 4
Name                                ID  VCPU   CPU State   Time(s) Affinity (Hard / Soft)
test                                 4     0    0   r--      16.4  0 / 0-7
test                                 4     1    1   r--      12.5  1 / 0-7
test                                 4     2    8   -b-       0.2  8 / 8-15
test                                 4     3    9   -b-       0.1  9 / 8-15

So, what am I doing wrong at "following the hw topology"?

> > Besides, this is not necessarily a NUMA-only issue, it's a scheduling
> > one (inside the guest) as well.
> 
> Sure. That's what Jan said regarding SUSE's xen-kernel. No toplogy info
> (or a trivial one) might be better than the wrong one...
> 
Yep. Exacty. As Boris says, this is a generic scheduling issue, although
it's tru that it's only (as far as I can tell) with vNUMA that it bite
us so hard... I mean, performance are always going to be inconsistent,
but it's only in that case that you basically _loose_ some of the
vcpus! :-O

Dario
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-07-22 14:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-16 10:32 PV-vNUMA issue: topology is misinterpreted by the guest Dario Faggioli
2015-07-16 10:47 ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-16 10:56   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-16 15:25     ` Wei Liu
2015-07-16 15:45       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-16 15:50         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-16 16:29           ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-16 16:39             ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-16 16:59               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-17  6:09                 ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-17  7:27                   ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-17  7:42                     ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-17  8:44                     ` Wei Liu
2015-07-17 18:17                     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-20 14:09                       ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-20 14:43                         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-21 20:00                           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-22 13:36                             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-22 13:50                               ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-22 13:58                                 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-22 14:09                                   ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-22 14:44                                     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-23  4:43                                       ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-23  7:28                                         ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-23  9:42                                         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-23 14:07                                         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-23 14:13                                           ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-24 10:28                                           ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-24 14:44                                             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-24 15:14                                               ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-24 15:24                                                 ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-24 15:58                                                   ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-24 16:09                                                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-07-24 16:14                                                       ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-24 16:18                                                       ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-24 16:29                                                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-07-24 16:39                                                           ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-24 16:44                                                             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-27  4:35                                                               ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-27 10:43                                                                 ` George Dunlap
2015-07-27 10:54                                                                   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-27 11:13                                                                     ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-27 10:54                                                                   ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-27 11:11                                                                     ` George Dunlap
2015-07-27 12:01                                                                       ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-27 12:16                                                                         ` Tim Deegan
2015-07-27 13:23                                                                         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-27 14:02                                                                           ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-27 14:02                                                                       ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-27 10:41                                                       ` George Dunlap
2015-07-27 10:49                                                         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-27 13:11                                                           ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-24 16:10                                                     ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-24 16:40                                                       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-24 16:48                                                         ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-24 17:11                                                           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-27 13:40                                                             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-27  4:24                                                         ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-27 14:09                                                       ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-27 14:34                                                         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-27 14:43                                                           ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-27 14:51                                                             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-27 15:03                                                               ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-27 14:47                                                           ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-27 14:58                                                           ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-28  4:29                                                         ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-28 15:11                                                           ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-28 16:17                                                             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-28 17:13                                                               ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-29  6:04                                                               ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-29  7:09                                                                 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-29  7:44                                                             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-24 16:05                                                 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-28 10:05                                                   ` Wei Liu
2015-07-28 15:17                                                     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-24 20:27                                               ` Elena Ufimtseva
2015-07-22 14:50                                     ` Dario Faggioli [this message]
2015-07-22 15:32                                       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-22 15:49                                         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-22 18:10                                           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-23  7:25                                             ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-24 16:03                                               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-23 13:46                                             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-17 10:17                 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-16 15:26 ` Wei Liu
2015-07-27 15:13 ` David Vrabel
2015-07-27 16:02   ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-27 16:31     ` David Vrabel
2015-07-27 16:33       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-27 17:42         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-27 17:50           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-07-27 23:19           ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-28  3:52             ` Juergen Gross
2015-07-28  9:40               ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-28  9:28             ` Dario Faggioli

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