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From: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
To: Shannon Zhao <zhaoshenglong@huawei.com>,
	Julien Grall <julien.grall@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@citrix.com>,
	Parth Dixit <parth.dixit@linaro.org>,
	Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>,
	Shannon Zhao <shannon.zhao@linaro.org>
Cc: Hangaohuai <hangaohuai@huawei.com>,
	"Huangpeng (Peter)" <peter.huangpeng@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: Design doc of adding ACPI support for arm64 on Xen - version 2
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 09:52:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1439369520.9747.311.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55CAB7D3.5050504@huawei.com>

On Wed, 2015-08-12 at 11:04 +0800, Shannon Zhao wrote:
> Hi Julien,
> 
> On 2015/8/12 0:19, Julien Grall wrote:
> > Hi Shannon,
> > 
> > On 07/08/15 03:11, Shannon Zhao wrote:
> > > 2. Create minimal DT to pass required information to Dom0
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > The minimal DT mainly passes Dom0 bootargs, address and size of 
> > > initrd
> > > (if available), address and size of uefi system table, address and 
> > > size
> > > of uefi memory table, uefi-mmap-desc-size and uefi-mmap-desc-ver.
> > > 
> > > An example of the minimal DT:
> > > / {
> > >     #address-cells = <2>;
> > >     #size-cells = <1>;
> > >     chosen {
> > >         bootargs = "kernel=Image console=hvc0 
> > > earlycon=pl011,0x1c090000
> > > root=/dev/vda2 rw rootfstype=ext4 init=/bin/sh acpi=force";
> > >         linux,initrd-start = <0xXXXXXXXX>;
> > >         linux,initrd-end = <0xXXXXXXXX>;
> > >         linux,uefi-system-table = <0xXXXXXXXX>;
> > >         linux,uefi-mmap-start = <0xXXXXXXXX>;
> > >         linux,uefi-mmap-size = <0xXXXXXXXX>;
> > >         linux,uefi-mmap-desc-size = <0xXXXXXXXX>;
> > >         linux,uefi-mmap-desc-ver = <0xXXXXXXXX>;
> > >     };
> > > };
> > > 
> > > For details loook at
> > > https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/arm/uefi.
> > > txt
> > 
> > AFAICT, the device tree properties in this documentation are only used
> > in order to communicate between the UEFI stub and Linux.
> > 
> > This means that those properties are not standardize and can change at
> > any time by Linux folks. They don't even live in 
> > Documentation/devicetree/
> > 
> > I would also expect to see the same needs for FreeBSD running as DOM0
> > with ACPI.
> > 
> I'm not very clear about how FreeBSD communicates with UEFI. And when
> booting with DT, how does FreeBSD communicate with UEFI? Not through
> these properties?

These properties are in effect a Linux internal interface defined between
the "Linux UEFI stub" and the "Linux kernel proper". The stub and the
kernel are notionally separate entities, although they are in the same tree
etc there is a well defined transition/entry point between the two. Since
they are in the same tree even though they are in theory "separate" I
expect they will tend to co-evolve.

IIRC we discussed with some of the maintainers (at Connect?) making this a
more formal interface, i.e. exposing the entry point to "Linux kernel
proper" which understands these properties to other than just the "Linux
UEFI stub" specifically to external entities such as Xen.

Probably part of this work needs to formalise that, such as by moving this
binding into the proper external bindings dir.

At which point BSD can (hopefully!) choose to support the same interface.

Ian.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-12  8:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-07  2:11 Design doc of adding ACPI support for arm64 on Xen - version 2 Shannon Zhao
2015-08-07  9:45 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-08-07 10:33 ` Julien Grall
2015-08-07 10:37   ` Christoffer Dall
2015-08-07 10:42     ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-08-07 10:44     ` Julien Grall
2015-08-11  2:09   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-11  9:46     ` Julien Grall
2015-08-11 10:27       ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-11 14:12 ` Ian Campbell
2015-08-11 14:51   ` David Vrabel
2015-08-11 14:59     ` Ian Campbell
2015-08-11 15:02       ` David Vrabel
2015-08-11 15:11       ` Julien Grall
2015-08-11 15:19         ` Ian Campbell
2015-08-11 15:25           ` David Vrabel
2015-08-11 16:01           ` Julien Grall
2015-08-12  2:42             ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-12  8:46               ` Ian Campbell
2015-08-12  8:46             ` Ian Campbell
2015-08-12  9:02               ` Julien Grall
2015-08-12 15:48   ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-11 14:19 ` Ian Campbell
2015-08-11 14:21   ` Ian Campbell
2015-08-11 15:29     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-08-11 15:35       ` Ian Campbell
2015-08-11 15:52         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-08-12  2:47           ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-12  8:47             ` Ian Campbell
2015-08-12  9:00               ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-17 10:36   ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-08-18  1:44     ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-11 16:19 ` Julien Grall
2015-08-12  3:04   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-12  8:52     ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2015-08-12  9:21       ` Julien Grall
2015-08-12 10:36         ` Andrew Turner
2015-08-12 10:48           ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-08-12 11:23             ` Ian Campbell
2015-08-12 12:11               ` Julien Grall
2015-09-02 11:27                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-08-12 12:20           ` Julien Grall
2015-09-02 11:30             ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-02 11:39               ` Julien Grall
2015-09-02 12:05                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-08-12 10:17       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-08-12  7:22 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-12  9:11   ` Julien Grall
2015-08-14 14:05     ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-14 14:17       ` xen/arm: Crash when allocating memory for ACPI table (Was Re: Design doc of adding ACPI support for arm64 on Xen - version 2) Julien Grall
2015-08-14 14:35         ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-14 14:41           ` Julien Grall
2015-08-14 14:49             ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-14 14:53               ` Julien Grall
2015-08-14 14:55                 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-12 15:45 ` Design doc of adding ACPI support for arm64 on Xen - version 2 Jan Beulich
2015-08-12 15:51   ` Christoffer Dall
2015-08-12 15:58     ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-12 16:18       ` Julien Grall
2015-08-13  6:41         ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-13  8:01           ` Christoffer Dall
2015-08-13  8:11             ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-13  8:18             ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-13  9:05           ` Ian Campbell
2015-08-13  9:20             ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-13 10:40               ` Julien Grall
2015-08-13  9:43           ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-08-13 10:03             ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-13 10:13               ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-08-13 10:22                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-08-13 10:29                   ` Christoffer Dall
2015-08-13 10:32                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-08-13 10:34                     ` Ian Campbell
2015-08-13 10:48                     ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-13 10:54                       ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-13 11:00                         ` Julien Grall
2015-08-13 11:07                           ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-08-13 11:55                           ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-13 12:08                             ` Julien Grall
2015-08-13 14:49                               ` Ian Campbell
2015-08-14  5:34                     ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-14  9:54                       ` Stefano Stabellini

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