From: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
To: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
Roger Pau Monne <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: [Minios-devel] [PATCH v4 0/<VARIOUS>] Begin to disentangle libxenctrl and provide some stable libraries
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 17:01:27 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1447952487.5647.87.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1511191534450.1107@kaball.uk.xensource.com>
On Thu, 2015-11-19 at 16:20 +0000, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
I'll just answer this bit, since it ties into your other answers, I think.
> Does the Xen<->libxc interface need to be stable for libxendevicemodel
> to have a stable ABI?
We could:
1) support multiple versions of Xen in a single library binary by detecting
the Xen version and dispatch the right kind of domctl with the right ABI
or:
2) provide multiple copies of libxendevicemodel.so.1 (the SONAME of the
library), one per Xen release and require that the distro's scripting to
arrange on boot that the dynamic linker finds the right one for the version
of Xen you are actually running under right now.
Neither of them are as easy as just having the Xen<->libxc interface in
question be stable.
Also, consider a distro package, typically the qemu package would depend on
libxendevicemodel.so.1 (in some way or another), but actually the
dependency would be on a version of libxendevicemodel.so associated with a
version of Xen >= the running version (i.e. libxendevicemodel from 4.7
obviously won't know about the ABI of 4.8).
We don't want to change the SONAME, since that defeats the purpose of
having a stable ABI.
Remember that the distro may have built qemu against the libxendevicemodel
from 4.7 but end up running it on 4.8 and that users may, for various
reasons only do partial upgrades of userspace stuff like QEMU.
> I think that libxendevicemodel could be stable, no matter what hypercall
> is eventually called underneath. Am I missing something?
It's possible but there are downsides and its not as simple as all that.
Ian.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-19 17:01 UTC|newest]
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2015-10-21 15:22 [PATCH v4 0/<VARIOUS>] Begin to disentangle libxenctrl and provide some stable libraries Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 00/23] " Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 01/23] tools/Rules.mk: Properly handle libraries with recursive dependencies Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:27 ` Wei Liu
2015-11-02 14:20 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 02/23] tools: Refactor "xentoollog" into its own library Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:27 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 03/23] tools/libxc: Remove osdep indirection for xc_evtchn Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:27 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 04/23] tools: Refactor /dev/xen/evtchn wrappers into libxenevtchn Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:27 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 05/23] tools: Arrange to check public headers for ANSI compatiblity Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:27 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 06/23] tools/libxc: Remove osdep indirection for xc_gnt{shr, tab} Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 07/23] tools: Refactor /dev/xen/gnt{dev, shr} wrappers into libxengnttab Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-11-04 16:08 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 08/23] tools/libxc: Remove osdep indirection for privcmd Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 09/23] tools: Refactor hypercall calling wrappers into libxencall Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 10/23] tools/libxc: drop xc_map_foreign_bulk_compat wrappers Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 11/23] tools: Remove xc_map_foreign_batch Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 12/23] tools: Implement xc_map_foreign_range(s) in terms of common helper Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 13/23] tools: Refactor foreign memory mapping into libxenforeignmemory Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 14/23] tools: foreignmemory: provide xenforeignmemory_unmap Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 15/23] foreignmemory: use size_t for size arguments Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 16/23] tools/libs/evtchn: Review and update doc comments Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 17/23] tools/libs: Clean up hard tabs Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 18/23] tools/libs/gnttab: Review and update doc comments Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:29 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 19/23] tools/libs/call: Update some log messages to not refer to xc Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:29 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 20/23] tools/libs/call: Avoid xc_memalign in netbsd and solaris backends Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:29 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 21/23] tools/libs/foreignmemory: Mention restrictions on fork in docs Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:29 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 22/23] tools: Update CFLAGS for qemu-xen to allow it to use new libraries Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:29 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 23/23] HACK: Update Config.mk to pull all the right bits from my xenbits trees Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN v4 0/9] Begin to disentangle libxenctrl and provide some stable libraries Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN v4 1/9] xen_console: correctly cleanup primary console on teardown Ian Campbell
2015-10-22 16:46 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN v4 2/9] xen: Switch to libxenevtchn interface for compat shims Ian Campbell
2015-10-23 11:06 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN v4 3/9] xen: Switch to libxengnttab " Ian Campbell
2015-10-23 11:06 ` Stefano Stabellini
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1510221754220.15801@kaball.uk.xensource.com>
2015-10-23 11:15 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-23 12:42 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN v4 4/9] xen: Switch uses of xc_map_foreign_range into xc_map_foreign_bulk Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN v4 5/9] xen: Switch uses of xc_map_foreign_pages " Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN v4 6/9] xen: Switch uses of xc_map_foreign_bulk to use libxenforeignmemory API Ian Campbell
2015-10-23 11:06 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN v4 7/9] xen: Use stable library interfaces when they are available Ian Campbell
2015-10-23 11:31 ` Stefano Stabellini
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1510231214140.15801@kaball.uk.xensource.com>
2015-10-23 12:25 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN v4 8/9] xen: domainbuild: reopen libxenctrl interface after forking for domain watcher Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN v4 9/9] xen: make it possible to build without the Xen PV domain builder Ian Campbell
2015-10-22 11:07 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-23 11:12 ` Stefano Stabellini
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1510231209070.15801@kaball.uk.xensource.com>
2015-10-23 11:19 ` Ian Campbell
[not found] ` <1445599197.2374.127.camel@citrix.com>
2015-10-23 11:35 ` Stefano Stabellini
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1510231235120.15801@kaball.uk.xensource.com>
2015-10-23 12:23 ` Ian Campbell
[not found] ` <1445441038-25903-5-git-send-email-ian.campbell@citrix.com>
2015-10-23 11:07 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN v4 4/9] xen: Switch uses of xc_map_foreign_range into xc_map_foreign_bulk Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN-TRADITIONAL v4 0/5] Begin to disentangle libxenctrl and provide some stable libraries Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN-TRADITIONAL v4 1/5] qemu-xen-traditional: Use xentoollog as a separate library Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN-TRADITIONAL v4 2/5] qemu-xen-traditional: Use libxenevtchn Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN-TRADITIONAL v4 3/5] qemu-xen-traditional: Use libxengnttab Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN-TRADITIONAL v4 4/5] qemu-xen-traditional: Add libxencall to rpath-link Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN-TRADITIONAL v4 5/5] qemu-xen-traditional: Add libxenforeignmemory " Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH MINI-OS v4 0/5] Begin to disentangle libxenctrl and provide some stable libraries Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH MINI-OS v4 1/5] mini-os: Include libxentoollog with libxc Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH MINI-OS v4 2/5] mini-os: Include libxenevtchn " Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH MINI-OS v4 3/5] mini-os: Include libxengnttab " Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH MINI-OS v4 4/5] mini-os: Include libxencall " Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH MINI-OS v4 5/5] mini-os: Include libxenforeignmemory " Ian Campbell
2015-10-22 20:42 ` [PATCH MINI-OS v4 0/5] Begin to disentangle libxenctrl and provide some stable libraries Samuel Thibault
2015-10-23 9:43 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-26 14:43 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:47 ` [Minios-devel] [PATCH v4 0/<VARIOUS>] " Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:02 ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-19 16:20 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-11-19 17:01 ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2015-11-20 11:07 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-11-20 11:24 ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-20 14:11 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-11-20 11:38 ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-20 11:40 ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-20 13:49 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-11-23 12:49 ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-03 9:44 ` Ian Campbell
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2015-11-09 11:59 Ian Campbell
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