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From: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Cc: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>, Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 12/31] tools: Utility for dealing with featuresets
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 10:38:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1452076724.7292.24.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <568C05B9.1030104@citrix.com>

On Tue, 2016-01-05 at 18:04 +0000, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 05/01/16 17:37, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > On Tue, 2016-01-05 at 17:13 +0000, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> > > They are: SHARED_1d, known_features[], inverted_features[],
> > > {pv,hvm_shadow,hvm_hap}_featuremask[], struct tagged_featureset,
> > > deep_deps[], nr_deep_deps, deep_dep_features[] and
> > > lookup_deep_deps().
> > Which ones of these are expected to be consumed by
> > applications/utilities
> > using libxc as well as shared between Xen and libxc?
> 
> libxc uses all the deep_deps, but only as an internal implementation
> detail of xc_cpuid_apply_policy()

I'm not interested in what libxc uses internally.

I'm interested only in what things which link against libxc, which includes
you debug utility, are using directly themselves (i.e. not via a libxc
call).

> I do not expect anything from cpuid-private.h to be exposed in the libxc
> API, although by the looks of it, the symbols are actually present in
> libxenctrl.so

Yes, this is because we don't enforce technically whether symbols are
exported or not (maybe I should write a map file which only allows xc_* and
see what breaks...).

Our closest analogue to whether something is exported vs private is "are
they used outside of tools/libxc", e.g. by tools/misc or tools/libxl, and
we have been explicitly annotating in-tree users of what we consider libxc
internals by such components, see e.g. tools/misc/Makefile and elsewhere
which have comments like:

    # xen-hptool incorrectly uses libxc internals.

Around the point they arrange for CFLAGS to point into internal stuff etc.

Your new tool is either adding a public API to libxc or adding another
instance of incorrectly using libxc internals. I don't think we want to add
any more of the latter, and certainly not without the caveats we apply to
other such cases (i.e. the comment to indicate that it is doing something
naughty).

Ian.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-06 10:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-16 21:24 [PATCH RFC 00/31] x86: Improvements to cpuid handling for guests Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 01/31] xen/public: Export featureset information in the public API Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 16:28   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-22 16:42     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 16:59       ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-23 10:05         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-23 10:24           ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-23 11:26             ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-06  7:43               ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 02/31] tools/libxc: Use public/featureset.h for cpuid policy generation Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 16:29   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-05 14:13     ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 14:17       ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 14:18         ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 14:23           ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 15:02             ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 15:42               ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 16:09                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 03/31] xen/x86: Store antifeatures inverted in a featureset Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 16:32   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-22 17:03     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 14:19       ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 14:24         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 04/31] xen/x86: Mask out unknown features from Xen's capabilities Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 16:42   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-22 17:01     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 05/31] xen/x86: Collect more CPUID feature words Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 16:46   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-22 17:17     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 06/31] xen/x86: Infrastructure to calculate guest featuresets Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 16:50   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 07/31] xen/x86: Export host featureset via SYSCTL Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 16:57   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 08/31] tools/stubs: Expose host featureset to userspace Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 15:36   ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 15:59     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 16:09       ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 16:19         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 16:38           ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 09/31] xen/x86: Calculate PV featureset Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 17:07   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-22 17:13     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 17:18       ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 10/31] xen/x86: Calculate HVM featureset Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 17:11   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-22 17:21     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 11/31] xen/x86: Calculate Raw featureset Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 17:14   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-22 17:27     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 12/31] tools: Utility for dealing with featuresets Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 15:17   ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 16:14     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 16:34       ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 17:13         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 17:37           ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 18:04             ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-06 10:38               ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2016-01-06 10:40   ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-06 10:42     ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 13/31] tools/libxc: Wire a featureset through to cpuid policy logic Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 15:42   ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 16:20     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 14/31] tools/libxc: Use featureset rather than guesswork Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 15:54   ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 16:22     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 15/31] x86: Generate deep dependencies of x86 features Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 16:03   ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 16:42     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 16:54       ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 17:09         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 17:19           ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 16/31] x86: Automatically generate known_features Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 17/31] xen/x86: Clear dependent features when clearing a cpu cap Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 18/31] xen/x86: Improve disabling of features which have dependencies Andrew Cooper
2016-01-21 16:48   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 19/31] tools/libxc: Sanitise guest featuresets Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 16:05   ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 20/31] x86: Improvements to in-hypervisor cpuid sanity checks Andrew Cooper
2016-01-21 17:02   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-21 17:21     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-21 18:15       ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22  7:47         ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22  7:45       ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 21/31] x86/domctl: Break out logic to update domain state from cpuid information Andrew Cooper
2016-01-21 17:05   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-21 17:08     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 22/31] x86/cpu: Move set_cpumask() calls into c_early_init() Andrew Cooper
2016-01-21 17:08   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 23/31] xen/x86: Export cpuid levelling capabilities via SYSCTL Andrew Cooper
2016-01-21 17:23   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 24/31] tools/stubs: Expose host levelling capabilities to userspace Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 25/31] xen/x86: Common infrastructure for levelling context switching Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22  8:56   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 10:05     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 26/31] xen/x86: Rework AMD masking MSR setup Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22  9:27   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 11:01     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22 11:13       ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 13:59         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22 14:12           ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 17:03             ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-25 11:25               ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 27/31] xen/x86: Rework Intel masking/faulting setup Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22  9:40   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 14:09     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22 14:29       ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 14:46         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22 14:53           ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 28/31] xen/x86: Context switch all levelling state in context_switch() Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22  9:52   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 14:19     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22 14:31       ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 14:39         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 29/31] x86/pv: Provide custom cpumasks for PV domains Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22  9:56   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 14:24     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22 14:33       ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 14:42         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22 14:48           ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 14:56             ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 30/31] x86/domctl: Update PV domain cpumasks when setting cpuid policy Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22 10:02   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 31/31] tools/libxc: Calculate xstate cpuid leaf from guest information Andrew Cooper

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