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From: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
To: Jim Fehlig <jfehlig@suse.com>
Cc: Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/28] libxl: Provide libxl__dm_support_*
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:56:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1452851804.32341.47.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5697E98E.6030008@suse.com>

On Thu, 2016-01-14 at 11:31 -0700, Jim Fehlig wrote:
> Ian Campbell wrote:
> > On Mon, 2016-01-11 at 10:00 -0700, Jim Fehlig wrote:
> > > On 01/07/2016 10:13 AM, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2015-12-22 at 18:44 +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > > > > This allows code elsewhere in libxl to find out what options a
> > > > > device
> > > > > model executable supports.  This is done by searching the usage
> > > > > message for fixed strings.
> > > > Has anyone (ever, not necessarily a Xen person nor in this context)
> > > > approached upstream QEMU about a machine readable output of some
> > > > sort?
> > > > 
> > > > I know libvirt does something similar to this, but they want to
> > > > support
> > > > older versions, whereas we at least have the luxury of not caring
> > > > about
> > > > versions before the point this code lands.
> > > Since qemu 1.2.0, libvirt has been using the various QMP commands to
> > > probe for
> > > qemu capabilities, instead of parsing help output.
> > 
> > As in it spawns a qemu specifically to ask the questions and then kills
> > it
> > and starts what it needs _or_ it starts the qemu with minimal command
> > line
> > cfg and then dynamically pokes in the full config via qmp?
> 
> The latter.

From the description I think you meant former?

>  When the qemu driver loads, it starts qemu, pokes it for
> capabilities via qmp, caches what it finds, then terminates it. The cached
> capabilities are used until the associated qemu binary is changed/updated.
> 
> If interested in peeking at the code, see virQEMUCapsInitQMP() and the functions
> it calls in $libvirt_src/src/qemu/qemu_capabilities.c. E.g.
> 
> virQEMUCapsInitQMP()
>   -> virQEMUCapsInitQMPMonitor()
>     -> virQEMUCapsInitQMPBasic()

Thanks.

When I spoke to Ian J yesterday we decided doing this properly (via QMP as
above) would be nice it was out of scope for this series for now. It would
make a nice future bit of cleanup though for sure.

Ian.

> 
> Regards,
> Jim
> 
> 
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Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-22 18:44 [RFC PATCH v6 00/28] libxl: Deprivilege qemu Ian Jackson
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 01/28] libxl: Move FILLZERO up in libxl_internal.h Ian Jackson
2016-01-07 17:08   ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 02/28] libxl: libxl_types_internal.idl: Add Emacs mode comment Ian Jackson
2016-01-07 17:09   ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 03/28] libxl: Provide libxl__dm_support_* Ian Jackson
2016-01-07 17:13   ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-08 12:13     ` Ian Jackson
2016-01-11 17:00     ` Jim Fehlig
2016-01-14 10:14       ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-14 18:31         ` Jim Fehlig
2016-01-15  9:56           ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2016-01-15 14:54             ` Jim Fehlig
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 04/28] libxl: Invoke libxl__dm_support_* Ian Jackson
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 05/28] libxl: libxl__spawn_stub_dm: Introduce `dmpath' Ian Jackson
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 06/28] libxl: qemu_pci_*: Introduce DMPATH local macro, twice Ian Jackson
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 07/28] libxl: libxl__device_model_xs_path: Add emulator_id parameter Ian Jackson
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 08/28] libxl: libxl__destroy_domid: Bring dm destruction together Ian Jackson
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 09/28] libxl: Move some error handling and cleanup into libxl__destroy_device_model Ian Jackson
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 10/28] libxl: kill_device_model: Silently tolerate ENOENT on pid xs path Ian Jackson
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 11/28] libxl: emuids: Pass correct emuid to internal functions Ian Jackson
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 12/28] libxl: Use libxl__device_model_xs_path in libxl__spawn_qdisk_backend Ian Jackson
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 13/28] libxl: emuids: Record which emuids we have started to create Ian Jackson
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 14/28] libxl: emuids: Pass emuid to dm destruction Ian Jackson
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 15/28] libxl: emuids: Pass emuid to device model argument construction Ian Jackson
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 16/28] libxl: emuids: Provide libxl__dm_xs_path_rel Ian Jackson
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 17/28] libxl: emuids: Do not open-code device-model/%u in libxl__destroy_qdisk_backend Ian Jackson
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 18/28] libxl: emuids: Change pid path in xenstore Ian Jackson
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 19/28] libxl: Improve libxl__destroy_device_model Ian Jackson
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 20/28] libxl: domcreate_dm_support_checked: Introduce `goto out' Ian Jackson
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 21/28] libxl: dm user: Reject attempts to set user!=root with qemu trad Ian Jackson
2016-01-07 17:20   ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-08 12:16     ` Ian Jackson
2016-01-08 12:23       ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 22/28] libxl: dm user: Document the default Ian Jackson
2016-01-07 17:20   ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 23/28] libxl: dm user: Move user choice earlier, and fill in config Ian Jackson
2015-12-22 18:44 ` [PATCH 24/28] libxl: dm spawn records rc in state struct rather than passing as argument Ian Jackson
2015-12-22 18:45 ` [PATCH 25/28] libxl: emuids: Perhaps change dm xs control path Ian Jackson
2016-01-07 17:26   ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-08 14:12     ` Ian Jackson
2016-01-08 14:36       ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-08 14:45         ` Ian Jackson
2016-01-08 14:49           ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-22 18:45 ` [PATCH 26/28] libxl: spawns two QEMUs for HVM guests Ian Jackson
2016-01-07 17:28   ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-08 14:35     ` Ian Jackson
2016-01-08 14:52       ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-22 18:45 ` [PATCH 27/28] libxl: Limit qemu physmap entries Ian Jackson
2016-01-07 17:28   ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-22 18:45 ` [PATCH 28/28] libxl: xsrestrict QEMU Ian Jackson
2016-01-07 17:36   ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-08 14:38     ` Ian Jackson
2016-04-10 19:52   ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-01-07 16:19 ` [RFC PATCH v6 00/28] libxl: Deprivilege qemu Wei Liu
2016-01-07 16:23   ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-01-07 16:36     ` Ian Jackson
2016-04-10 19:36 ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-04-11 10:35   ` Wei Liu
2016-04-14 17:27   ` Ian Jackson
2016-04-28 14:32     ` Ian Jackson

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