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From: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
To: George Dunlap <dunlapg@umich.edu>
Cc: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Martin Osterloh <osterlohm@ainfosec.com>,
	Shriram Rajagopalan <rshriram@cs.ubc.ca>,
	Yang Hongyang <yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: Current LibXL Status
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 17:24:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1455816261.6225.57.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFLBxZaUU0z3W9GU6imwooA+pZVqheLHDFzPq-8vc-0RsTXNRA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 2016-02-18 at 17:09 +0000, George Dunlap wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2015-11-19 at 11:55 +0000, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2015-11-19 at 11:48 +0000, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2015-11-19 at 11:33 +0000, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > The majority of those are cases are not appropriate uses of
> > > > > exit().
> > > > > AFAIIR, the *only* valid use of exit() in a library is to clean
> > > > > up in
> > > > > a
> > > > > child process from a library-initiated fork().
> > > > 
> > > > ... or (in this case) in the libxl-save-helper (separate process).
> > > > 
> > > > The only one I can find which isn't one of this is
> > > > in libxl__event_disaster, and that is only if the applications (or
> > > > language
> > > > bindings) haven't provided a suitable disaster callback.
> > > 
> > > Was looking at 4.4, in staging I also see a very odd one in
> > > drbd_preresume_async, which isn't obviously in a child process
> > > AFAICT.
> > > 
> > > Hongyang, what prevents that exit from killing the whole toolstack
> > > process?
> > 
> > I had missed an _async suffix on that function versus the one which was
> > the
> > actual callback, it is invoked via drbd_async_call which involves a
> > fork().
> 
> So what was the conclusion here?  It looks like we've confirmed that
> exit() is only called:
> 
> 1. In the case of a malloc() failure
> 2. in libxl-save-helper (a separate process forked by the library)
> 3. In libxl__event_disaster(), if no callback is provided
> 
> Which just leaves #1 as something to be discussed?

Somewhere/when I proposed handling #1 by having the small number of places
which call libxl__alloc_failed() call an application (or language binding)
provided "please free some memory" hook (i.e. "please run your garbage
collector") and then retry some appropriate number of times. Perhaps with
an error code available for the hook to say "this is never going to help".

There's less than a dozen such call sites so this is quite doable, vastly
so compared with adding OOM error handling and reporting back up the
callchain to all libxl functions.

Ian.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-18 17:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-18 18:32 Current LibXL Status Martin Osterloh
2015-11-19  9:20 ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-19 10:23   ` George Dunlap
2015-11-19 10:55   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-11-19 11:23     ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-19 11:30       ` Processed: " xen
2015-11-19 11:33       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-11-19 11:48         ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-19 11:55           ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-19 12:16             ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-20  0:30               ` Yang Hongyang
2016-02-18 17:09               ` George Dunlap
2016-02-18 17:19                 ` Ian Jackson
2016-02-18 17:26                   ` Ian Campbell
2016-02-18 17:40                     ` George Dunlap
2016-02-18 17:24                 ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2016-02-18 18:30           ` Ian Jackson
2015-11-19 15:34       ` George Dunlap
2016-02-18 17:26       ` George Dunlap
2016-02-18 17:39         ` Ian Campbell
2016-02-18 17:47           ` George Dunlap
2016-02-18 17:50           ` Ian Campbell
2016-02-18 18:15     ` libxl and malloc failure (Re: Current LibXL Status) Ian Jackson
2016-02-19 10:52       ` Ian Campbell
2016-02-19 11:00         ` Processed: " xen
2016-02-22 16:48         ` Ian Jackson

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