From: Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>
To: Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Cc: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>, Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] xen: Document XEN_SYSCTL_CPUPOOL_OP_RMCPU anomalous EBUSY result
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 22:22:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1460665330.13871.196.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <22287.55772.931614.61945@mariner.uk.xensource.com>
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On Thu, 2016-04-14 at 18:56 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Andrew Cooper writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 3/3] xen: Document
> XEN_SYSCTL_CPUPOOL_OP_RMCPU anomalous EBUSY result"):
> >
> > On 14/04/16 18:07, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > >
> > > +/*
> > > + * cpupool operations may return EBUSY if the operation cannot
> > > be
> > > + * executed right now because of another cpupool operation which
> > > is
> > > + * still in progress. In this case, EBUSY means that the failed
> > > + * operation had no effect.
> > > + *
> > > + * Some operations including at least RMCPU (xxx which others?)
> > > may
> > > + * also return EBUSY because a guest has temporarily pinned one
> > > of its
> > > + * vcpus to the pcpu in question. It is the pious hope (xxx) of
> > > the
> > > + * author of this comment that this can only occur for domains
> > > which
> > > + * have been granted some kind of hardware privilege (eg
> > > passthrough).
> > Any VM can be given any arbitrary pinning in its xl configuration
> > file.
> > Any arbitrary pinning can be applied at runtime via `xl vcpu-pin
> > ...`
> Does that produce EBUSY as well ?
>
It can, after Juergen series, but I think in this case (setting
affinity), the situation is still acceptable. In fact:
> The reuse of the same error number for all of
>
> "the existing configuration (eg toolstack-selected vcpu pinning)
> means that the operation does not make sense"
>
This return -EINVAL.
> "there is some lock contention and trying again may help"
>
This can't happen in this case (and reason is just that setting the
affinity of a vcpu is different and less problematic than removing a
cpu from a cpupool).
> "a semantically conflicting, or nearly-semantically-conflicting,
> operation is currently in progress"
>
I'm not sure what this means exactly, but I think that --depending on
what it exactly means-- it either can't happen or fall into the -EINVAL
case.
> "the guest has done a temporary pin which prevents this operation"
>
This (because of the series) returns -EBUSY.
> is very unfortunate. How is a toolstack to know what to do ?
>
Yeah, I agree, but again, I think in this case it's possible for
toolstack to tell.
From a quick check, we do not, in libxl, output any specific error
message in case we get -EBUSY... but I can send a patch to that effect
pretty quickly, if that's deemed necessary.
> > (To the best of my knowledge) A VM cannot choose pinning of its own
> > accord. (i.e. the host admin has to choose the pinning.)
> AIUI, that is not (now) true.
>
Yes, now a guest can call the new SCHEDOP_pin_override hypercall (and
Juergen is pushing a series to Linux for it to be able to do that... as
that was the purpose of the while thing!).
However, as said in another email, there's already a check like this in
place, in the implementation of such an hypercall:
ret = -EPERM;
if ( !is_hardware_domain(current->domain) )
break;
which I think satisfies Ian's (legitimate) concern?
Regards,
Dario
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Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-14 17:07 [PATCH 0/3] Revert xc cpupool retries and document anomaly Ian Jackson
2016-04-14 17:07 ` [PATCH 1/3] libxc: Revert "do some retries in xc_cpupool_removecpu() for EBUSY case" Ian Jackson
2016-04-15 5:15 ` Juergen Gross
2016-04-15 7:46 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-04-14 17:07 ` [PATCH 2/3] xen: hypercall docs annotations for xen_sysctl_cpupool_op Ian Jackson
2016-04-14 20:37 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-04-15 10:27 ` Ian Jackson
2016-04-14 17:07 ` [PATCH 3/3] xen: Document XEN_SYSCTL_CPUPOOL_OP_RMCPU anomalous EBUSY result Ian Jackson
2016-04-14 17:24 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-04-14 17:56 ` Ian Jackson
2016-04-14 20:22 ` Dario Faggioli [this message]
2016-04-15 10:20 ` Ian Jackson
2016-04-15 10:43 ` Juergen Gross
2016-04-15 10:58 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-04-15 11:37 ` Juergen Gross
2016-04-15 13:20 ` Juergen Gross
2016-04-15 13:33 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-04-15 14:11 ` Ian Jackson
2016-04-15 14:39 ` Juergen Gross
2016-04-15 5:35 ` Juergen Gross
2016-04-15 7:42 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-04-15 14:12 ` Ian Jackson
2016-04-15 14:17 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-04-15 14:34 ` Juergen Gross
2016-04-15 14:44 ` Ian Jackson
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