From: Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>
To: anshul makkar <anshul.makkar@citrix.com>, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Cc: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 19/24] xen: credit2: soft-affinity awareness in load balancing
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 14:49:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1473079767.19612.23.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57C96679.3000902@citrix.com>
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On Fri, 2016-09-02 at 12:46 +0100, anshul makkar wrote:
Hey, Anshul,
Thanks for having a look at the patch!
> On 17/08/16 18:19, Dario Faggioli wrote:
> >
> > --- a/xen/common/sched_credit2.c
> > +++ b/xen/common/sched_credit2.c
> >
> > + * Basically, if a soft-affinity is defined, the work done by a
> > vcpu on a
> > + * runq to which it has higher degree of soft-affinity, is
> > considered
> > + * 'lighter' than the same work done by the same vcpu on a runq to
> > which it
> > + * has smaller degree of soft-affinity (degree of soft affinity is
> > <= 1). In
> > + * fact, if soft-affinity is used to achieve NUMA-aware
> > scheduling, the higher
> > + * the degree of soft-affinity of the vcpu to a runq, the greater
> > the probability
> > + * of accessing local memory, when running on such runq. And that
> > is certainly\
> > + * 'lighter' than having to fetch memory from remote NUMA nodes.
> Do we ensure that while defining soft-affinity for a vcpu, NUMA
> architecture is considered. If not, then this whole calculation can
> go
> wrong and have negative impact on performance.
>
Defining soft-affinity after topology is what we do by default, just
not here in Xen: we do it in toolstack (in libxl, to be precise).
NUMA aware scheduling is indeed the most obvious use case for all this
--and, in fact that's why we configure things in such a way in higher
layers-- but the mechanism is, at the Xen level, flexible enough to be
used for any purpose that the user may find interesting.
> Degree of affinity to runq will give good result if the affinity to
> pcpus has been chosen after due consideration ..
>
At this level, 'good result' means 'making sure that a vcpu runs for as
much time as possible on a pcpu to which it has soft-affinity'. Whether
that is good or not for performance (or for any other aspect or
metric), it's not this algorithm's job to determine.
Note that things are exactly the same for hard-affinity/pinning, or for
weights. In fact, Xen won't stop one to, say, pin 128 vcpu all to pcpu
3. This will deeply suck, but it's the higher layers' will (fault?) and
Xen should just comply to that.
> > + * If there is no soft-affinity, load_balance() (actually,
> > consider()) acts
> > + * as follows:
> > + *
> > + * - D = abs(Li - Lj)
> If we are consider absolute of Li -Lj, how will we know which runq
> has
> less workload which, I think, is an essential parameter for load
> balancing. Am I missing something here ?
>
What we are aiming for is making the queues more balanced, which means
we want the difference between their load to be smaller than how it is
when the balancing start. As far as that happens, we don't care which
loads goes down and which one goes up, as far as the final result is a
smaller load delta.
> > + * - consider pushing v from I to J:
> > + * - D' = abs(Li - lv - (Lj + lv)) (from now, abs(x) == |x|)
> > + * - if (D' < D) { push }
> > + * - consider pulling k from J to I:
> > + * - D' = |Li + lk - (Lj - lk)|
> > + * - if (D' < D) { pull }
> For both push and pull we are checking (D` < D) ?
>
Indeed. And that's because of the abs(). :-)
Regards,
Dario
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Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-08-17 17:17 [PATCH 00/24] sched: Credit1 and Credit2 improvements... and soft-affinity for Credit2! Dario Faggioli
2016-08-17 17:17 ` [PATCH 01/24] xen: credit1: small optimization in Credit1's tickling logic Dario Faggioli
2016-09-12 15:01 ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:17 ` [PATCH 02/24] xen: credit1: fix mask to be used for tickling in Credit1 Dario Faggioli
2016-08-17 23:42 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-12 15:04 ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:17 ` [PATCH 03/24] xen: credit1: return the 'time remaining to the limit' as next timeslice Dario Faggioli
2016-09-12 15:14 ` George Dunlap
2016-09-12 17:00 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-14 9:34 ` George Dunlap
2016-09-14 13:54 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-08-17 17:18 ` [PATCH 04/24] xen: credit2: properly schedule migration of a running vcpu Dario Faggioli
2016-09-12 17:11 ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:18 ` [PATCH 05/24] xen: credit2: make tickling more deterministic Dario Faggioli
2016-08-31 17:10 ` anshul makkar
2016-09-05 13:47 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-07 12:25 ` anshul makkar
2016-09-13 11:13 ` George Dunlap
2016-09-29 15:24 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-13 11:28 ` George Dunlap
2016-09-30 2:22 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-08-17 17:18 ` [PATCH 06/24] xen: credit2: implement yield() Dario Faggioli
2016-09-13 13:33 ` George Dunlap
2016-09-29 16:05 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-20 13:25 ` George Dunlap
2016-09-20 13:37 ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:18 ` [PATCH 07/24] xen: sched: don't rate limit context switches in case of yields Dario Faggioli
2016-09-20 13:32 ` George Dunlap
2016-09-29 16:46 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-08-17 17:18 ` [PATCH 08/24] xen: tracing: add trace records for schedule and rate-limiting Dario Faggioli
2016-08-18 0:57 ` Meng Xu
2016-08-18 9:41 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-20 13:50 ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:18 ` [PATCH 09/24] xen/tools: tracing: improve tracing of context switches Dario Faggioli
2016-09-20 14:08 ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:18 ` [PATCH 10/24] xen: tracing: improve Credit2's tickle_check and burn_credits records Dario Faggioli
2016-09-20 14:35 ` George Dunlap
2016-09-29 17:23 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-29 17:28 ` George Dunlap
2016-09-29 20:53 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-08-17 17:18 ` [PATCH 11/24] tools: tracing: handle more scheduling related events Dario Faggioli
2016-09-20 14:37 ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:18 ` [PATCH 12/24] xen: libxc: allow to set the ratelimit value online Dario Faggioli
2016-09-20 14:43 ` George Dunlap
2016-09-20 14:45 ` Wei Liu
2016-09-28 15:44 ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:19 ` [PATCH 13/24] libxc: improve error handling of xc Credit1 and Credit2 helpers Dario Faggioli
2016-09-20 15:10 ` Wei Liu
2016-08-17 17:19 ` [PATCH 14/24] libxl: allow to set the ratelimit value online for Credit2 Dario Faggioli
2016-08-22 9:21 ` Ian Jackson
2016-09-05 14:02 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-08-22 9:28 ` Ian Jackson
2016-09-28 15:37 ` George Dunlap
2016-09-30 1:03 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-28 15:39 ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:19 ` [PATCH 15/24] xl: " Dario Faggioli
2016-09-28 15:46 ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:19 ` [PATCH 16/24] xen: sched: factor affinity helpers out of sched_credit.c Dario Faggioli
2016-09-28 15:49 ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:19 ` [PATCH 17/24] xen: credit2: soft-affinity awareness in runq_tickle() Dario Faggioli
2016-09-01 10:52 ` anshul makkar
2016-09-05 14:55 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-07 13:24 ` anshul makkar
2016-09-07 13:31 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-28 20:44 ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:19 ` [PATCH 18/24] xen: credit2: soft-affinity awareness fallback_cpu() and cpu_pick() Dario Faggioli
2016-09-01 11:08 ` anshul makkar
2016-09-05 13:26 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-09-07 12:52 ` anshul makkar
2016-09-29 11:11 ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:19 ` [PATCH 19/24] xen: credit2: soft-affinity awareness in load balancing Dario Faggioli
2016-09-02 11:46 ` anshul makkar
2016-09-05 12:49 ` Dario Faggioli [this message]
2016-08-17 17:19 ` [PATCH 20/24] xen: credit2: kick away vcpus not running within their soft-affinity Dario Faggioli
2016-08-17 17:20 ` [PATCH 21/24] xen: credit2: optimize runq_candidate() a little bit Dario Faggioli
2016-08-17 17:20 ` [PATCH 22/24] xen: credit2: "relax" CSCHED2_MAX_TIMER Dario Faggioli
2016-09-30 15:30 ` George Dunlap
2016-08-17 17:20 ` [PATCH 23/24] xen: credit2: optimize runq_tickle() a little bit Dario Faggioli
2016-09-02 12:38 ` anshul makkar
2016-09-05 12:52 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-08-17 17:20 ` [PATCH 24/24] xen: credit2: try to avoid tickling cpus subject to ratelimiting Dario Faggioli
2016-08-18 0:11 ` [PATCH 00/24] sched: Credit1 and Credit2 improvements... and soft-affinity for Credit2! Dario Faggioli
2016-08-18 11:49 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-08-18 11:53 ` Dario Faggioli
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