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From: Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>
To: Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: xen/arm: Domain not fully destroyed when using credit2
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 14:19:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1485263974.32103.61.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aa1583c3-25aa-b723-fefa-49d7e86f63dc@arm.com>


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On Tue, 2017-01-24 at 13:04 +0000, Julien Grall wrote:
> On 24/01/17 12:53, Dario Faggioli wrote:
> > Do you have a script and/or some more info for letting me try to
> > reproduce it (e.g., you say some otf the vCPUs are pinned, which
> > one?
> > etc)?
> 
> That was mentioned in my first e-mail :). My configuration is:
> 	- ARM platform with 6 cores
> 	- staging Xen with credit2 enabled by default
> 	- DOM0 using 2 pinned vCPUs
> 	- Guest using 2 vCPUs (not pinned)
> 
Yeah, but some of the details were either missing, or not clear to
me... Sorry for bothering and thanks for re-stating this here. :-)

How are Dom0 vCPUs pinned, exclusively (i.e., there are 2 pCPUs on
which _only_ Dom0 and _no_ DomU can run)?

> The script is really simple:
> 
> for i in `seq 1 10`; do
> 	sudo xl create ~/works/guest/guest.cfg;
> 	sudo xl destroy guest;
> done
> 
Ok.

> > I'm a bit curious about why you're saying this is being exposed by
> > using Credit2.
> 
> It is been exposed by Credit2 because compared to Credit1 there is
> no 
> interrupt traffic made by the scheduler. 
>
So, when you say "no interrupt traffic", do you perhaps mean that
SCHEDULE_SOFTIRQ is rarely (never!) raised for idle pCPUs? Or are you
really talking about actual interrupts (either inter-processor or not)?

> On ARM with credit2 the 
> interrupt traffic is reduced to none for idle pCPU.
> 
Yes, but _iff_ we're talking about SCHEDULE_SOFTIRQ events, for a truly
idle pCPU (e.g., if I use vcpu-pin to *forbid* every vCPU to execute
there), that's _zero_ also for Credit1, at least on x86 (I've just
tried)!

Perhaps this is too extreme/unrealistic of an idle situation, but I'm
trying to understand the problem. :-)

> In fact:
> > 
> >  1) I've power-cycled quite a few domains in these last months,
> > while
> >     under Credit2, and I don't think I have encountered it on x86;
> 
> AFAIU, IPI is often the only way to broadcast some instruction on
> x86. 
> So compare to ARM, you have likely an higher interrupt traffic.
> 
Right.

> Also, the problem is not obvious to spot unless you look at the free 
> memory (via xl info) before and after. Another solution is printing
> a 
> message in both domain_destroy and complete_domain_destroy.
> 
> You will spot the first message directly. The latter may never be
> printed.
> 
Yep, I was already instrumenting the code like this... I'll let you
know.

Regards,
Dario
-- 
<<This happens because I choose it to happen!>> (Raistlin Majere)
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Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK)

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-24 13:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-23 19:42 xen/arm: Domain not fully destroyed when using credit2 Julien Grall
2017-01-24  0:16 ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-01-24 12:52   ` Julien Grall
2017-01-24  8:20 ` Jan Beulich
2017-01-24 10:50   ` Julien Grall
2017-01-24 11:02     ` Jan Beulich
2017-01-24 12:30       ` Julien Grall
2017-01-24 12:53     ` Dario Faggioli
2017-01-24 13:04       ` Julien Grall
2017-01-24 13:05         ` Julien Grall
2017-01-24 13:19         ` Dario Faggioli [this message]
2017-01-24 13:24           ` Julien Grall
2017-01-24 13:40             ` Dario Faggioli
2017-01-24 13:49               ` Julien Grall
2017-01-24 14:16                 ` Dario Faggioli
2017-01-24 15:06                   ` Julien Grall
2017-01-25 11:10                     ` Dario Faggioli
2017-01-25 12:38                       ` Julien Grall
2017-01-25 12:40                         ` Andrew Cooper
2017-01-25 14:23                           ` Julien Grall
2017-01-25 16:00                         ` Dario Faggioli
2017-01-31 16:30                           ` Julien Grall
2017-01-31 22:10                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-02-01 18:21                             ` Wei Liu
2017-02-02 11:22                               ` Jan Beulich
2017-02-02 11:53                                 ` Wei Liu
2017-02-02 12:18                                   ` Julien Grall
2017-02-02 12:51                                     ` Dario Faggioli
2017-02-02 13:26                                       ` Julien Grall
2017-02-02 13:32                                         ` Dario Faggioli
2017-03-28 18:30                                           ` Julien Grall
2017-03-30  7:38                                             ` Dario Faggioli
2017-02-02 12:01                                 ` Dario Faggioli

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