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From: Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>
To: Volodymyr Babchuk <vlad.babchuk@gmail.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>
Cc: Artem_Mygaiev@epam.com, Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
	Andrii Anisov <andrii_anisov@epam.com>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: Notes on stubdoms and latency on ARM
Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 09:11:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1495523505.7393.59.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOcqxo0djhKRRS_0F+zm9uGFNHb+Dtuj_h=yqBrSdD0+RRA05A@mail.gmail.com>


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On Fri, 2017-05-19 at 22:45 +0300, Volodymyr Babchuk wrote:
> On 18 May 2017 at 22:00, Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>
> wrote:
> > ACTIONS:
> > Improve the null scheduler to enable decent stubdoms scheduling on
> > latency sensitive systems.
> 
> I'm not very familiar with XEN schedulers. 
>
Feel free to ask anything. :-)

> Looks like null scheduler
> is good for hard RT, but isn't fine for a generic consumer system. 
>
The null scheduler is meant at being useful when you have a static
scenario, no (or very few) overbooking (i.e., total nr of vCPUs ~= nr
of pCPUS), and what to cut to _zero_ the scheduling overhead.

That may include certain class of real-time workloads, but it not
limited to such use case.

> How
> do you think: is it possible to make credit2 scheduler to schedule
> stubdoms in the same way?
> 
It is indeed possible. Actually, it's actually in the plans to do
exactly something like that, as it could potentially be useful for a
wide range of use cases.

Doing it in the null scheduler is just easier, and we think it would be
a nice way to quickly have a proof of concept done. Afterwards, we'll
focus on other schedulers too.

> > Investigate ways to improve context switch times on ARM.
> 
> Do you have any tools to profile or trace XEN core? Also, I don't
> think that pure context switch time is the biggest issue. Even now,
> it
> allows 180 000 switches per second (if I'm not wrong). I think,
> scheduling latency is more important.
> 
What do you refer to when you say 'scheduling latency'? As in, the
latency between which events, happening on which component?

Regards,
Dario
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-05-23  7:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-18 19:00 Notes on stubdoms and latency on ARM Stefano Stabellini
2017-05-19 19:45 ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-22 21:41   ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-05-26 19:28     ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-30 17:29       ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-05-30 17:33         ` Julien Grall
2017-06-01 10:28           ` Julien Grall
2017-06-17  0:17             ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-31  9:09         ` George Dunlap
2017-05-31 15:53           ` Dario Faggioli
2017-05-31 16:17             ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-31 17:45           ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-06-01 10:48             ` Julien Grall
2017-06-01 10:52             ` George Dunlap
2017-06-01 10:54               ` George Dunlap
2017-06-01 12:40               ` Dario Faggioli
2017-06-01 15:02                 ` George Dunlap
2017-06-01 18:27               ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-05-31 17:02       ` George Dunlap
2017-06-17  0:14         ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-06-19  9:37           ` George Dunlap
2017-06-19 17:54             ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-06-19 18:36               ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-06-20 10:11                 ` Dario Faggioli
2017-07-07 15:02                   ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-07-07 16:41                     ` Dario Faggioli
2017-07-07 17:03                       ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-07-07 21:12                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-07-12  6:14                           ` Dario Faggioli
2017-07-17  9:25                             ` George Dunlap
2017-07-17 10:04                               ` Julien Grall
2017-07-17 11:28                                 ` George Dunlap
2017-07-19 11:21                                   ` Julien Grall
2017-07-20  9:25                                     ` Dario Faggioli
2017-07-20  9:10                                   ` Dario Faggioli
2017-07-20  8:49                               ` Dario Faggioli
2017-07-08 14:26                         ` Dario Faggioli
2017-06-20 10:45                 ` Julien Grall
2017-06-20 16:23                   ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-06-21 10:38                     ` Julien Grall
2017-06-19 18:26             ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-06-20 10:00               ` Dario Faggioli
2017-06-20 10:30                 ` George Dunlap
2017-05-23  7:11   ` Dario Faggioli [this message]
2017-05-26 20:09     ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-27  2:10       ` Dario Faggioli
2017-05-23  9:08   ` George Dunlap
2017-05-26 19:43     ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2017-05-26 19:46       ` Volodymyr Babchuk

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