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From: Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	TimDeegan <tim@xen.org>, Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] xen: timers: don't miss a timer event because of stop_timer()
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 15:39:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1506519589.17428.8.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59CB9A02020000780018008D@prv-mh.provo.novell.com>


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On Wed, 2017-09-27 at 04:30 -0600, Jan Beulich wrote:
> > > > On 27.09.17 at 12:18, <dario.faggioli@citrix.com> wrote:
> 
> > And that is because the following happens:
> > - the CPU wants to go idle
> > - sched_tick_suspend()
> >     rcu_idle_timer_start()
> >       set_timer(RCU_idle_timer)
> > - the CPU goes idle
> >   ... ... ...
> > - RCU_idle_timer's IRQ arrives
> > - the CPU wakes up
> > - raise_softirq(TIMER_SOFTIRQ)
> > - sched_tick_resume()
> >     rcu_idle_timer_stop()
> >       stop_timer(RCU_idle_timer)
> >         deactivate_timer(RCU_idle_timer)
> >           remove_entry(RCU_idle_timer) // timer out of heap/list
> > - do_softirq() (we are inside idle_loop())
> > - softirq_handlers[TIMER_SOFTIRQ]()
> > - timer_softirq_action()
> >     // but the timer is not in the heap/list!
> 
> But this is an extremely special case, not something likely to
> happen anywhere else. Hence I wonder whether it wouldn't
> be better to handle the special case in a special way, rather
> than making generic code fit the special case.
>
Well, yes. As said, this "new" timer is the first, and for now the
only, that follow this pattern. And I also agree that this is not
something we must expect to see to happen much more (if at all).

Still, I continue to think that with a timer already expired, its IRQ
already delivered and handled and the relative TIMER_SOFTIRQ already
risen, we should arrange for the timer handler to run, in the general
case.

>  Or wait -
> wouldn't all you need be to avoid calling stop_timer() in the
> call tree above, if the timer's expiry has passed (suitably
> explained in a comment)?
> 
Yes. For the reason stated above, I addressed the problem at the
generic code level. If that doesn't fly, I'll do like this. I had
thought about that, and although I haven't tried, I think it works for
this case.

Thanks and Regards,
Dario
-- 
<<This happens because I choose it to happen!>> (Raistlin Majere)
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Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli
Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK)

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-27 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-15 18:01 [PATCH 0/3] xen: RCU: Improve the idle timer handling Dario Faggioli
2017-09-15 18:01 ` [PATCH 1/3] xen: timers: don't miss a timer event because of stop_timer() Dario Faggioli
2017-09-26 14:59   ` Jan Beulich
2017-09-26 18:11     ` Dario Faggioli
2017-09-27  8:20       ` Jan Beulich
2017-09-27 10:18         ` Dario Faggioli
2017-09-27 10:30           ` Jan Beulich
2017-09-27 13:39             ` Dario Faggioli [this message]
2017-09-28  9:51               ` Dario Faggioli
2017-09-15 18:01 ` [PATCH 2/3] xen: RCU: make the period of the idle timer configurable Dario Faggioli
2017-09-26 15:14   ` Jan Beulich
2017-09-26 17:48     ` Dario Faggioli
2017-09-27  8:26       ` Jan Beulich
2017-09-15 18:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] xen: RCU: make the period of the idle timer adaptive Dario Faggioli
2017-09-26 15:24   ` Jan Beulich
2017-09-26 17:50     ` Dario Faggioli

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