* Re: [Xen-users] "Hello Xen Project" Book. [not found] <1720037778.664206.1492022128851.ref@mail.yahoo.com> @ 2017-04-12 18:35 ` Mohsen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Mohsen @ 2017-04-12 18:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Lars Kurth; +Cc: Juergen Gross, xen-devel, xen-users@lists.xenproject.org Thank you so much Lars. I like to see the first chapter and I must say that LibreOffice on Windows OS has the MediaWiki plug in and working very well. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 4/12/17, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [Xen-users] [Xen-devel] "Hello Xen Project" Book. To: "Mohsen" <mohsen1365b@yahoo.com> Cc: "Mohsen Mostafa Jokar" <mohsenjokar@gmail.com>, "Juergen Gross" <jgross@suse.com>, "xen-devel" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>, "xen-users@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-users@lists.xenproject.org> Date: Wednesday, April 12, 2017, 5:36 PM Hi all, I had a go at converting the first chapter* See https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Category:HelloXenProjectBook (and https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Book/HelloXenProject/Instructions_for_Conversion)* And https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Book/HelloXenProject/0-Contents All relevant information for people to help out is there. If anyone wants to help and needs some advice, feel free to do so Best RegardsLars On 4 Apr 2017, at 15:25, Mohsen <mohsen1365b@yahoo.com> wrote: Thank you for openSUSE VM and the libreoffice-wiki-publisher but you must split the .odt file? On Monday, April 3, 2017 8:38 AM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote: > On 29 Mar 2017, at 05:51, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> wrote: > > On 28/03/17 21:33, Mike Wright wrote: >> On 03/28/2017 12:11 PM, Mohsen wrote: >>> I'm using LibreOffice 4.3.3.2 on Debian amd64 and this version not >>> have MediaWiki export function!! >> >> There was a deb for the libreoffice extension >> libreoffice-wiki-publisher. Give that a try. > > In the end you need that only once for the initial conversion. So > instead of trying to find the correct package you could just use > your Xen skills to create an openSUSE VM and do it there. :-) Juergen, thanks for the tip. I installed an openSUSE VM and the libreoffice-wiki-publisher came as default, which is good. So I ran a few tests. First, what I couldn't get to work: I tried Send > MediaWiki in the hope that this would allow transferring of images, but could not get it to work. There seems to be an issue with authentication on the XenProject wiki side. But File > Export [MediaWiki (.txt)] works. Also, I couldn't find any docs for the converter: the help links to pages which do not exist. But hey, we can live with that. Here is what I learned: ======================= * The export granularity is 1 LibreOffice document to 1 Wiki Page * Most of the basic formatting such as lists and tables get correctly converted, but the converter introduces an awful lot of <span style"...">...</span> and <div style"...">...</div> attributes. Basically it does this every time, something slightly out of the ordinary has been done with text. These may have to be stripped with on-line tools such as http://www.unit-conversion.info/texttools/strip-tags/ or similar, otherwise the wiki pages become a nightmare to edit in future. * URLs are correctly converted * Headlines (aka text marked as "Heading 1", "Heading 2", etc. are not converted) to = ... =, == ... ==, etc. * Images are not converted: when an image is found, "[[image:|top]]" is inserted * I don't know how code snippets will come across in terms of formatting, as I don't have the ODT source of the book What does this mean: ==================== In principle, this means that should be doable with 1-2 days worth of work. However it's not going to be entirely trivial. What we would need to do is to: * Break the original book ODT file into smaller sections (probably along the chapter structure as exposed in the Contents) * Then take each of the ODT files and do the following ** Save as MediaWiki (.txt) [1]. If appropriate remove tags using http://www.unit-conversion.info/texttools/strip-tags/ ** Save as html [2] - to get the images. The bad news is that the images are saved using some hash names and not in the order they are in the document ** Create the wiki page from [1] ** Fix up bad formatting (such as missing = ... =, == ... ==, etc.) ** Manually upload the images from [2] ** Add appropriate [[Category:...]] tags at the bottom of each page. At least one for the wiki-book, e.g. [[Category:HelloXenProjectBook]] or something similar. But of course further categories per topic can be added as needed. Once we have all the content, create the common pages such as contents, credits, etc. - and we should have a good starting point. Best Regards Lars _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xen.org https://lists.xen.org/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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* Re: [Xen-users] "Hello Xen Project" Book. [not found] <273314172.1243061.1492091785584.ref@mail.yahoo.com> @ 2017-04-13 13:56 ` Jason Long 2017-04-18 11:44 ` Lars Kurth 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Jason Long @ 2017-04-13 13:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mohsen, Lars Kurth Cc: Juergen Gross, xen-devel, Mohsen Mostafa Jokar, xen-users@lists.xenproject.org It is a good news and I hope Xen experts thinking about beginners like me. Xen is great but have some problems in documenting and easy to use. I hope to see this book on Xen Project website soon. Thank you Xen team. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 4/12/17, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [Xen-users] [Xen-devel] "Hello Xen Project" Book. To: "Mohsen" <mohsen1365b@yahoo.com> Cc: "Juergen Gross" <jgross@suse.com>, "xen-devel" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>, "Mohsen Mostafa Jokar" <mohsenjokar@gmail.com>, "xen-users@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-users@lists.xenproject.org> Date: Wednesday, April 12, 2017, 5:36 PM Hi all, I had a go at converting the first chapter* See https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Category:HelloXenProjectBook (and https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Book/HelloXenProject/Instructions_for_Conversion)* And https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Book/HelloXenProject/0-Contents All relevant information for people to help out is there. If anyone wants to help and needs some advice, feel free to do so Best RegardsLars On 4 Apr 2017, at 15:25, Mohsen <mohsen1365b@yahoo.com> wrote: Thank you for openSUSE VM and the libreoffice-wiki-publisher but you must split the .odt file? On Monday, April 3, 2017 8:38 AM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote: > On 29 Mar 2017, at 05:51, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> wrote: > > On 28/03/17 21:33, Mike Wright wrote: >> On 03/28/2017 12:11 PM, Mohsen wrote: >>> I'm using LibreOffice 4.3.3.2 on Debian amd64 and this version not >>> have MediaWiki export function!! >> >> There was a deb for the libreoffice extension >> libreoffice-wiki-publisher. Give that a try. > > In the end you need that only once for the initial conversion. So > instead of trying to find the correct package you could just use > your Xen skills to create an openSUSE VM and do it there. :-) Juergen, thanks for the tip. I installed an openSUSE VM and the libreoffice-wiki-publisher came as default, which is good. So I ran a few tests. First, what I couldn't get to work: I tried Send > MediaWiki in the hope that this would allow transferring of images, but could not get it to work. There seems to be an issue with authentication on the XenProject wiki side. But File > Export [MediaWiki (.txt)] works. Also, I couldn't find any docs for the converter: the help links to pages which do not exist. But hey, we can live with that. Here is what I learned: ======================= * The export granularity is 1 LibreOffice document to 1 Wiki Page * Most of the basic formatting such as lists and tables get correctly converted, but the converter introduces an awful lot of <span style"...">...</span> and <div style"...">...</div> attributes. Basically it does this every time, something slightly out of the ordinary has been done with text. These may have to be stripped with on-line tools such as http://www.unit-conversion.info/texttools/strip-tags/ or similar, otherwise the wiki pages become a nightmare to edit in future. * URLs are correctly converted * Headlines (aka text marked as "Heading 1", "Heading 2", etc. are not converted) to = ... =, == ... ==, etc. * Images are not converted: when an image is found, "[[image:|top]]" is inserted * I don't know how code snippets will come across in terms of formatting, as I don't have the ODT source of the book What does this mean: ==================== In principle, this means that should be doable with 1-2 days worth of work. However it's not going to be entirely trivial. What we would need to do is to: * Break the original book ODT file into smaller sections (probably along the chapter structure as exposed in the Contents) * Then take each of the ODT files and do the following ** Save as MediaWiki (.txt) [1]. If appropriate remove tags using http://www.unit-conversion.info/texttools/strip-tags/ ** Save as html [2] - to get the images. The bad news is that the images are saved using some hash names and not in the order they are in the document ** Create the wiki page from [1] ** Fix up bad formatting (such as missing = ... =, == ... ==, etc.) ** Manually upload the images from [2] ** Add appropriate [[Category:...]] tags at the bottom of each page. At least one for the wiki-book, e.g. [[Category:HelloXenProjectBook]] or something similar. But of course further categories per topic can be added as needed. Once we have all the content, create the common pages such as contents, credits, etc. - and we should have a good starting point. Best Regards Lars _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xen.org https://lists.xen.org/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xen.org https://lists.xen.org/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [Xen-users] "Hello Xen Project" Book. 2017-04-13 13:56 ` Jason Long @ 2017-04-18 11:44 ` Lars Kurth 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Lars Kurth @ 2017-04-18 11:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jason Long Cc: Juergen Gross, xen-devel, xen-users@lists.xenproject.org, Mohsen, Mohsen Mostafa Jokar > On 13 Apr 2017, at 14:56, Jason Long <hack3rcon@yahoo.com> wrote: > > It is a good news and I hope Xen experts thinking about beginners like me. Xen is great but have some problems in documenting and easy to use. I hope to see this book on Xen Project website soon. > > Thank you Xen team. You are welcome. The content has essentially been transferred: see https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Category:HelloXenProjectBook The formatting can probably be improved in some areas, but generally seems fine: see https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Book/HelloXenProject/Instructions_for_Improvement Regards Lars _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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* Re: [Xen-users] "Hello Xen Project" Book. [not found] <1158994522.440219.1490728267390.ref@mail.yahoo.com> @ 2017-03-28 19:11 ` Mohsen [not found] ` <f7b4446d-1852-caf2-0340-9fe9bee8a9b1@nospam.hostisimo.com> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Mohsen @ 2017-03-28 19:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Juergen Gross, M A Young Cc: Lars Kurth, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, Mohsen, xen-users@lists.xenproject.org I'm using LibreOffice 4.3.3.2 on Debian amd64 and this version not have MediaWiki export function!! -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 3/28/17, M A Young <m.a.young@durham.ac.uk> wrote: Subject: Re: [Xen-users] [Xen-devel] "Hello Xen Project" Book. To: "Juergen Gross" <jgross@suse.com> Cc: "Lars Kurth" <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com>, "xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>, "Mohsen" <mohsen1365b@yahoo.com>, "xen-users@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-users@lists.xenproject.org> Date: Tuesday, March 28, 2017, 5:16 PM On Tue, 28 Mar 2017, Juergen Gross wrote: > On 28/03/17 13:51, Lars Kurth wrote: > > > >> On 16 Mar 2017, at 05:00, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> wrote: > >> > >> On 15/03/17 19:05, Mohsen wrote: > >>> Thank you so much Lars. > >>> I used LibreOffice and I will test HTML format and inform you. > >> > >> You are aware of the MediaWiki export function of LibreOffice? > > > > Yes, but I have not been able to find the extension at https://extensions.libreoffice.org/ > > The extension seems to have been discontinued some time ago > > I don't know whether there are any distros, where you can still get it from. > > openSUSE seems to have it (libreOffice 5.2.3.3). and fedora has the libreoffice-wiki-publisher package as part of ite LibreOffice build (5.2.6.2 in F25) Michael Young _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xen.org https://lists.xen.org/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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* Re: [Xen-users] "Hello Xen Project" Book. [not found] ` <9f591831-d0e8-ca74-3b0b-c5d311e66014@suse.com> @ 2017-04-03 15:35 ` Lars Kurth 2017-04-04 14:25 ` Mohsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Lars Kurth @ 2017-04-03 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mohsen Mostafa Jokar Cc: Juergen Gross, xen-devel, xen-users@lists.xenproject.org > On 29 Mar 2017, at 05:51, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> wrote: > > On 28/03/17 21:33, Mike Wright wrote: >> On 03/28/2017 12:11 PM, Mohsen wrote: >>> I'm using LibreOffice 4.3.3.2 on Debian amd64 and this version not >>> have MediaWiki export function!! >> >> There was a deb for the libreoffice extension >> libreoffice-wiki-publisher. Give that a try. > > In the end you need that only once for the initial conversion. So > instead of trying to find the correct package you could just use > your Xen skills to create an openSUSE VM and do it there. :-) Juergen, thanks for the tip. I installed an openSUSE VM and the libreoffice-wiki-publisher came as default, which is good. So I ran a few tests. First, what I couldn't get to work: I tried Send > MediaWiki in the hope that this would allow transferring of images, but could not get it to work. There seems to be an issue with authentication on the XenProject wiki side. But File > Export [MediaWiki (.txt)] works. Also, I couldn't find any docs for the converter: the help links to pages which do not exist. But hey, we can live with that. Here is what I learned: ======================= * The export granularity is 1 LibreOffice document to 1 Wiki Page * Most of the basic formatting such as lists and tables get correctly converted, but the converter introduces an awful lot of <span style"...">...</span> and <div style"...">...</div> attributes. Basically it does this every time, something slightly out of the ordinary has been done with text. These may have to be stripped with on-line tools such as http://www.unit-conversion.info/texttools/strip-tags/ or similar, otherwise the wiki pages become a nightmare to edit in future. * URLs are correctly converted * Headlines (aka text marked as "Heading 1", "Heading 2", etc. are not converted) to = ... =, == ... ==, etc. * Images are not converted: when an image is found, "[[image:|top]]" is inserted * I don't know how code snippets will come across in terms of formatting, as I don't have the ODT source of the book What does this mean: ==================== In principle, this means that should be doable with 1-2 days worth of work. However it's not going to be entirely trivial. What we would need to do is to: * Break the original book ODT file into smaller sections (probably along the chapter structure as exposed in the Contents) * Then take each of the ODT files and do the following ** Save as MediaWiki (.txt) [1]. If appropriate remove tags using http://www.unit-conversion.info/texttools/strip-tags/ ** Save as html [2] - to get the images. The bad news is that the images are saved using some hash names and not in the order they are in the document ** Create the wiki page from [1] ** Fix up bad formatting (such as missing = ... =, == ... ==, etc.) ** Manually upload the images from [2] ** Add appropriate [[Category:...]] tags at the bottom of each page. At least one for the wiki-book, e.g. [[Category:HelloXenProjectBook]] or something similar. But of course further categories per topic can be added as needed. Once we have all the content, create the common pages such as contents, credits, etc. - and we should have a good starting point. Best Regards Lars _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [Xen-users] "Hello Xen Project" Book. 2017-04-03 15:35 ` Lars Kurth @ 2017-04-04 14:25 ` Mohsen 2017-04-12 17:36 ` Lars Kurth 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Mohsen @ 2017-04-04 14:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Lars Kurth, Mohsen Mostafa Jokar Cc: Juergen Gross, xen-devel, xen-users@lists.xenproject.org [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3601 bytes --] Thank you for openSUSE VM and the libreoffice-wiki-publisher but you must split the .odt file? On Monday, April 3, 2017 8:38 AM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote: > On 29 Mar 2017, at 05:51, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> wrote: > > On 28/03/17 21:33, Mike Wright wrote: >> On 03/28/2017 12:11 PM, Mohsen wrote: >>> I'm using LibreOffice 4.3.3.2 on Debian amd64 and this version not >>> have MediaWiki export function!! >> >> There was a deb for the libreoffice extension >> libreoffice-wiki-publisher. Give that a try. > > In the end you need that only once for the initial conversion. So > instead of trying to find the correct package you could just use > your Xen skills to create an openSUSE VM and do it there. :-) Juergen, thanks for the tip. I installed an openSUSE VM and the libreoffice-wiki-publisher came as default, which is good. So I ran a few tests. First, what I couldn't get to work: I tried Send > MediaWiki in the hope that this would allow transferring of images, but could not get it to work. There seems to be an issue with authentication on the XenProject wiki side. But File > Export [MediaWiki (.txt)] works. Also, I couldn't find any docs for the converter: the help links to pages which do not exist. But hey, we can live with that. Here is what I learned: ======================= * The export granularity is 1 LibreOffice document to 1 Wiki Page * Most of the basic formatting such as lists and tables get correctly converted, but the converter introduces an awful lot of <span style"...">...</span> and <div style"...">...</div> attributes. Basically it does this every time, something slightly out of the ordinary has been done with text. These may have to be stripped with on-line tools such as http://www.unit-conversion.info/texttools/strip-tags/ or similar, otherwise the wiki pages become a nightmare to edit in future. * URLs are correctly converted * Headlines (aka text marked as "Heading 1", "Heading 2", etc. are not converted) to = ... =, == ... ==, etc. * Images are not converted: when an image is found, "[[image:|top]]" is inserted * I don't know how code snippets will come across in terms of formatting, as I don't have the ODT source of the book What does this mean: ==================== In principle, this means that should be doable with 1-2 days worth of work. However it's not going to be entirely trivial. What we would need to do is to: * Break the original book ODT file into smaller sections (probably along the chapter structure as exposed in the Contents) * Then take each of the ODT files and do the following ** Save as MediaWiki (.txt) [1]. If appropriate remove tags using http://www.unit-conversion.info/texttools/strip-tags/ ** Save as html [2] - to get the images. The bad news is that the images are saved using some hash names and not in the order they are in the document ** Create the wiki page from [1] ** Fix up bad formatting (such as missing = ... =, == ... ==, etc.) ** Manually upload the images from [2] ** Add appropriate [[Category:...]] tags at the bottom of each page. At least one for the wiki-book, e.g. [[Category:HelloXenProjectBook]] or something similar. But of course further categories per topic can be added as needed. Once we have all the content, create the common pages such as contents, credits, etc. - and we should have a good starting point. Best Regards Lars _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xen.org https://lists.xen.org/xen-users [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 6137 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 127 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [Xen-users] "Hello Xen Project" Book. 2017-04-04 14:25 ` Mohsen @ 2017-04-12 17:36 ` Lars Kurth 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Lars Kurth @ 2017-04-12 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mohsen Cc: Juergen Gross, xen-devel, Mohsen Mostafa Jokar, xen-users@lists.xenproject.org [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 4646 bytes --] Hi all, I had a go at converting the first chapter * See https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Category:HelloXenProjectBook <https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Category:HelloXenProjectBook> (and https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Book/HelloXenProject/Instructions_for_Conversion <https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Book/HelloXenProject/Instructions_for_Conversion>) * And https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Book/HelloXenProject/0-Contents <https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Book/HelloXenProject/0-Contents> All relevant information for people to help out is there. If anyone wants to help and needs some advice, feel free to do so Best Regards Lars > On 4 Apr 2017, at 15:25, Mohsen <mohsen1365b@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Thank you for openSUSE VM and the libreoffice-wiki-publisher but you must split the .odt file? > > > On Monday, April 3, 2017 8:38 AM, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 29 Mar 2017, at 05:51, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com <mailto:jgross@suse.com>> wrote: > > > > On 28/03/17 21:33, Mike Wright wrote: > >> On 03/28/2017 12:11 PM, Mohsen wrote: > >>> I'm using LibreOffice 4.3.3.2 on Debian amd64 and this version not > >>> have MediaWiki export function!! > >> > >> There was a deb for the libreoffice extension > >> libreoffice-wiki-publisher. Give that a try. > > > > In the end you need that only once for the initial conversion. So > > instead of trying to find the correct package you could just use > > your Xen skills to create an openSUSE VM and do it there. :-) > > Juergen, thanks for the tip. I installed an openSUSE VM and the libreoffice-wiki-publisher came as default, which is good. So I ran a few tests. > > First, what I couldn't get to work: I tried Send > MediaWiki in the hope that this would allow transferring of images, but could not get it to work. There seems to be an issue with authentication on the XenProject wiki side. But File > Export [MediaWiki (.txt)] works. > > Also, I couldn't find any docs for the converter: the help links to pages which do not exist. But hey, we can live with that. > > Here is what I learned: > ======================= > * The export granularity is 1 LibreOffice document to 1 Wiki Page > * Most of the basic formatting such as lists and tables get correctly converted, but the converter introduces an awful lot of <span style"...">...</span> and <div style"...">...</div> attributes. Basically it does this every time, something slightly out of the ordinary has been done with text. These may have to be stripped with on-line tools such as http://www.unit-conversion.info/texttools/strip-tags/ <http://www.unit-conversion.info/texttools/strip-tags/>or similar, otherwise the wiki pages become a nightmare to edit in future. > * URLs are correctly converted > * Headlines (aka text marked as "Heading 1", "Heading 2", etc. are not converted) to = ... =, == ... ==, etc. > * Images are not converted: when an image is found, "[[image:|top]]" is inserted > * I don't know how code snippets will come across in terms of formatting, as I don't have the ODT source of the book > > What does this mean: > ==================== > In principle, this means that should be doable with 1-2 days worth of work. However it's not going to be entirely trivial. What we would need to do is to: > * Break the original book ODT file into smaller sections (probably along the chapter structure as exposed in the Contents) > * Then take each of the ODT files and do the following > ** Save as MediaWiki (.txt) [1]. If appropriate remove tags using http://www.unit-conversion.info/texttools/strip-tags/ <http://www.unit-conversion.info/texttools/strip-tags/> > ** Save as html [2] - to get the images. The bad news is that the images are saved using some hash names and not in the order they are in the document > ** Create the wiki page from [1] > ** Fix up bad formatting (such as missing = ... =, == ... ==, etc.) > ** Manually upload the images from [2] > ** Add appropriate [[Category:...]] tags at the bottom of each page. At least one for the wiki-book, e.g. [[Category:HelloXenProjectBook]] or something similar. But of course further categories per topic can be added as needed. > > Once we have all the content, create the common pages such as contents, credits, etc. - and we should have a good starting point. > > Best Regards > Lars > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xen.org <mailto:Xen-users@lists.xen.org> > https://lists.xen.org/xen-users <https://lists.xen.org/xen-users> > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 8330 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 127 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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* Re: [Xen-users] "Hello Xen Project" Book. [not found] <325285607.5863022.1490728082853.ref@mail.yahoo.com> @ 2017-03-28 19:08 ` Mohsen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Mohsen @ 2017-03-28 19:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Juergen Gross, Lars Kurth Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, Mohsen, xen-users@lists.xenproject.org Hello Lars. How about "https://en.wikitolearn.org/WikiToLearn_Manual/Converting_LibreOffice_to_MediaWiki_Format" or "https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/libreoffice-wiki-publisher/"? -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 3/28/17, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [Xen-users] "Hello Xen Project" Book. To: "Juergen Gross" <jgross@suse.com> Cc: "Mohsen" <mohsen1365b@yahoo.com>, "xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>, "xen-users@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-users@lists.xenproject.org> Date: Tuesday, March 28, 2017, 4:21 PM > On 16 Mar 2017, at 05:00, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> wrote: > > On 15/03/17 19:05, Mohsen wrote: >> Thank you so much Lars. >> I used LibreOffice and I will test HTML format and inform you. > > You are aware of the MediaWiki export function of LibreOffice? Yes, but I have not been able to find the extension at https://extensions.libreoffice.org/ The extension seems to have been discontinued some time ago I don't know whether there are any distros, where you can still get it from. Lars _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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* Re: [Xen-users] "Hello Xen Project" Book. [not found] <428947567.858633.1489601125709.ref@mail.yahoo.com> @ 2017-03-15 18:05 ` Mohsen 2017-03-16 5:00 ` Juergen Gross 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Mohsen @ 2017-03-15 18:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mohsen, Lars Kurth Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, xen-users@lists.xenproject.org Thank you so much Lars. I used LibreOffice and I will test HTML format and inform you. The structure that you listed was good and I hope Xen experts and developers like you dedicate some hours at the weekends for update this book and add more topics to it. I bet it is a good project for help beginners and introduce Xen to people. This book can become a Bible for Xen if friends working on it. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 3/15/17, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [Xen-users] "Hello Xen Project" Book. To: "Mohsen" <mohsen1365b@yahoo.com> Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>, "xen-users@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-users@lists.xenproject.org> Date: Wednesday, March 15, 2017, 4:04 PM Hi Mohsen, > On 15 Mar 2017, at 09:50, Mohsen <mohsen1365b@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Dear Xen Project community members, > > I have written a Xen book recently (pdf attached) which is aimed at teaching Xen newbies. I would like to make the book available to the Xen Project under a CC-BY-SA-3.0 license. Ideally, I would like to publish the content on the Xen Project wiki in an editable form, such that others can contribute and build on it and it stays up-to-date. I also noticed that the Xen Wiki has the https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection extension, which should make it possible to create a PDF, ODF or DocBook from the pages for those who want a manual rather than wiki pages. Thank you for doing this. As far as I can tell the fact that you published the book under CC-BY-SA-3.0 would make it possible to move the content to the wiki. > I had a conversation with Lars to check whether this is possible and he believes it is. He suggests that first we upload the book as pdf to the wiki and as a second step, agree an information architecture and then convert the book to mark-down. There are a number of conversion tools which should get us there some of the way, with a bit of cleanup and beautification needed after the initial import. I can make the source available in a format that makes conversion to markdown easier. We do need to find a way to convert the content into markdown format though, which may be quite a bit of work. I have done this before for html pages, converting them into docman markdown. I have not checked whether there are online or command line tools which do that for mediawiki markdown. In any case, the conversion is fundamentally doable, although it will be somewhat tedious to do this. If anyone has more experience, please share and advise what the best way forward is. The main problem that I faced when doing something similar were tables, figures and other more advanced formatting. Much of this may get lost or "corrupted" in some way and will have to be re-introduced post conversion. @Mohsen: as far as I recall, you used Word or LibreOffice to create the book? Is that correct? If so, it should be possible to save it in html, which would ensure that figures and so on are saved in some sensible way. We would probably need to find a temporary location where to store this. And we can start experimenting a little and maybe provide a quick guide on how to do this. As for the information architecture, I was thinking about a structure such as ... https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/<wikibook> https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/<wikibook>/title_and_credits https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/<wikibook>/<chapter> https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/<wikibook>/<chapter>/<article> ... a separate article for each article in the book, such as "Virtualization and Security". As a first step, we would probably keep the original chapter structure. This would then look something like ... https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/HelloXenProject https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/HelloXenProject/0/Title https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/HelloXenProject/0/Credits https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/HelloXenProject/0/Licence https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/HelloXenProject/1-Intro https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/HelloXenProject/1-Intro/History https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/HelloXenProject/1-Intro/TypesOfVirtualization We may need some other extensible numbering scheme, which would make it easy to create PDF's with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection - again, this is something I don't have experience with. > What do people think? Is this a good idea? Would anyone be willing to help? I am not very familiar with Markdown and would need someone else to help with the wikification of the book. Lars already volunteered to help. I will definitely help, but this would be an activity, which could easily be distributed. So help from others would be very highly appreciated. Best Regards Lars _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xen.org https://lists.xen.org/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [Xen-users] "Hello Xen Project" Book. 2017-03-15 18:05 ` Mohsen @ 2017-03-16 5:00 ` Juergen Gross 2017-03-28 11:51 ` Lars Kurth 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Juergen Gross @ 2017-03-16 5:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mohsen, Lars Kurth Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, xen-users@lists.xenproject.org On 15/03/17 19:05, Mohsen wrote: > Thank you so much Lars. > I used LibreOffice and I will test HTML format and inform you. You are aware of the MediaWiki export function of LibreOffice? Juergen _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [Xen-users] "Hello Xen Project" Book. 2017-03-16 5:00 ` Juergen Gross @ 2017-03-28 11:51 ` Lars Kurth 2017-03-28 11:56 ` Juergen Gross 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Lars Kurth @ 2017-03-28 11:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Juergen Gross Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, Mohsen, xen-users@lists.xenproject.org > On 16 Mar 2017, at 05:00, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> wrote: > > On 15/03/17 19:05, Mohsen wrote: >> Thank you so much Lars. >> I used LibreOffice and I will test HTML format and inform you. > > You are aware of the MediaWiki export function of LibreOffice? Yes, but I have not been able to find the extension at https://extensions.libreoffice.org/ The extension seems to have been discontinued some time ago I don't know whether there are any distros, where you can still get it from. Lars _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [Xen-users] "Hello Xen Project" Book. 2017-03-28 11:51 ` Lars Kurth @ 2017-03-28 11:56 ` Juergen Gross 2017-03-28 12:46 ` M A Young 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Juergen Gross @ 2017-03-28 11:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Lars Kurth Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, Mohsen, xen-users@lists.xenproject.org On 28/03/17 13:51, Lars Kurth wrote: > >> On 16 Mar 2017, at 05:00, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> wrote: >> >> On 15/03/17 19:05, Mohsen wrote: >>> Thank you so much Lars. >>> I used LibreOffice and I will test HTML format and inform you. >> >> You are aware of the MediaWiki export function of LibreOffice? > > Yes, but I have not been able to find the extension at https://extensions.libreoffice.org/ > The extension seems to have been discontinued some time ago > I don't know whether there are any distros, where you can still get it from. openSUSE seems to have it (libreOffice 5.2.3.3). Juergen _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [Xen-users] "Hello Xen Project" Book. 2017-03-28 11:56 ` Juergen Gross @ 2017-03-28 12:46 ` M A Young 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: M A Young @ 2017-03-28 12:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Juergen Gross Cc: Lars Kurth, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, Mohsen, xen-users@lists.xenproject.org On Tue, 28 Mar 2017, Juergen Gross wrote: > On 28/03/17 13:51, Lars Kurth wrote: > > > >> On 16 Mar 2017, at 05:00, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> wrote: > >> > >> On 15/03/17 19:05, Mohsen wrote: > >>> Thank you so much Lars. > >>> I used LibreOffice and I will test HTML format and inform you. > >> > >> You are aware of the MediaWiki export function of LibreOffice? > > > > Yes, but I have not been able to find the extension at https://extensions.libreoffice.org/ > > The extension seems to have been discontinued some time ago > > I don't know whether there are any distros, where you can still get it from. > > openSUSE seems to have it (libreOffice 5.2.3.3). and fedora has the libreoffice-wiki-publisher package as part of ite LibreOffice build (5.2.6.2 in F25) Michael Young _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xen.org https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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