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From: Sheng Yang <sheng@linux.intel.com>
To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <Jeremy.Fitzhardinge@citrix.com>,
	Keir Fraser <Keir.Fraser@eu.citrix.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] xen/hybrid: Enable grant table and xenbus
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:17:40 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201002031317.40185.sheng@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1265134143.3247.10.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wednesday 03 February 2010 02:09:03 Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 16:46 +0000, Sheng Yang wrote:
> > On Wednesday 03 February 2010 00:24:04 Ian Campbell wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 13:24 +0000, Sheng Yang wrote:
> > > > I am not sure if I understand you right, but I think the issue is,
> > > > there is no PVonHVM drivers in Linux upstream. The drivers are
> > > > currently maintained by OSVs, and the one in Xen upstream code only
> > > > support 2.6.18. So I didn't take them into consideration at the time.
> > >
> > > True, but this is something which should be taken care of by the core
> > > Xen-aware code not something which should be pushed down into each
> > > driver.
> > >
> > > Someone who wants to add PVonHVM functionality shouldn't have to go and
> > > remove a bunch of conditionals from each driver (or worse add
> > > alternative clauses to each check!).
> > >
> > > > I think the "xen_evtchn_enable()" looks much better. Would replace
> > > > these ugly lines in the next version.
> > >
> > > I think it would be cleaner to encapsulate this in the evtchn code
> > > rather than leaking platform knowledge into each driver. IOW the evtchn
> > > functions should return failure if event channels are not enabled and
> > > the driver should cope with this gracefully.
> >
> > Agree. That what I suppose to do. What the drivers should only know is,
> > if event channel is enabled.
> >
> > > Or perhaps at the xenbus driver level we should be deciding whether or
> > > not we have enough paravirtualisation to be worth probing the drivers
> > > at all?
> >
> > I think current scheme is direct enough for now. We can improve it later.
> 
> Taking a step back I don't think any of these checks are necessary at
> all -- in order to get as far as actually probing the devices xenbus
> needs to be up and running, which implies event channels, as well as
> everything else required for PV drivers to function, are working.
> 
> Drivers for PCI devices don't all start with "if (pci_bus_available())",
> they just register the driver and let the kernel's driver core take care
> of things. If someone is worried about the overhead of an extra driver
> being registered, well that is what modular kernels are for.
> 
> I think that even the existing "if (xen_domain())" check is unnecessary,
> at least in the frontend drivers.

Um, very reasonable. I would provide another patch for this.

-- 
regards
Yang, Sheng

  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-03  5:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-02  8:19 (unknown), Sheng Yang
2010-02-02  8:19 ` [PATCH 1/6] xen/hybrid: add support for hvm_op Sheng Yang
2010-02-02  8:19 ` [PATCH 2/6] xen/hybrid: Import cpuid.h from Xen Sheng Yang
2010-02-02  8:19 ` [PATCH 3/6] xen/hybrid: Xen Hybrid Extension initialization Sheng Yang
2010-02-02  8:19 ` [PATCH 4/6] xen/hybrid: The entrance for Hybrid Sheng Yang
2010-02-02  8:19 ` [PATCH 5/6] xen/hybrid: Make event channel work with QEmu emulated devices Sheng Yang
2010-02-02  8:19 ` [PATCH 6/6] xen/hybrid: Enable grant table and xenbus Sheng Yang
2010-02-02 11:33   ` Ian Campbell
2010-02-02 13:24     ` Sheng Yang
2010-02-02 16:24       ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2010-02-02 16:46         ` Sheng Yang
2010-02-02 18:09           ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2010-02-03  5:17             ` Sheng Yang [this message]
2010-02-02 17:03   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-02-02 17:46     ` Sheng Yang
2010-02-02  8:26 ` [PATCH 0/6][v2] Hybrid extension for Xen guest Sheng Yang

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