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From: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	suzuki@in.ibm.com, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 09/12] xen/pvticketlock: Xen implementation for PV ticket locks
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 21:57:18 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110118162717.GA18234@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C9FCA8F.4070802@goop.org>

On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 03:34:55PM -0700, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
>  On 09/26/2010 04:39 AM, Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 06:03:04PM -0700, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> >> Replace the old Xen implementation of PV spinlocks with and implementation
> >> of xen_lock_spinning and xen_unlock_kick.
> > I see that the old implementation took care of a spinlock() call being
> > interrupted by another spinlock (in interrupt handler), by saving/restoring 
> > old lock of interest. We don't seem to be doing that in this new version?
> > Won't that lead to loss of wakeup -> hang?

Sorry about coming back late on this, but as I was looking at the most recent
version of pv-ticketlocks, this came up in my mind again ..

> No, interrupts are disabled while waiting to take the lock, so it isn't
> possible for an interrupt to come in.

Where are we disabling interrupts? Is it in xen_poll_irq()?

>  With the old-style locks it was
> reasonable to leave interrupts enabled while spinning, but with ticket
> locks it isn't.
> 
> (I haven some prototype patches to implement nested spinning of ticket
> locks,

Hmm ..where is nested spinning allowed/possible? Process context will
disable interrupts/bh from wanting the same (spin-)lock it is trying to
acquire?

> by allowing the nested taker to steal the queue position of the
> outer lock-taker, and switch its ticket with a later one.  But there's a
> fundamental problem with the idea: each lock taker needs to take a
> ticket.  If you don't allow nesting, then the max amount of tickets
> needed = number of cpus-1; however, with nesting, the max number of
> tickets = ncpus * max-nesting-depth, so the size of the ticket type must
> be larger for a given number of cpus, or the max number of cpus must be
> reduced.)

- vatsa

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-18 16:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-17  1:03 [PATCH RFC 00/12] X86 ticket lock cleanups and improvements Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-07-17  1:03 ` [PATCH RFC 01/12] x86/ticketlock: clean up types and accessors Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-07-17  1:03 ` [PATCH RFC 08/12] x86/ticketlock: collapse a layer of functions Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-07-17  1:03 ` [PATCH RFC 05/12] x86/ticketlock: make __ticket_spin_lock common Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-07-17  1:03 ` [PATCH RFC 09/12] xen/pvticketlock: Xen implementation for PV ticket locks Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-09-26 11:39   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-09-26 22:34     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-01-18 16:27       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri [this message]
2011-01-19  1:28         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-07-17  1:03 ` [PATCH RFC 06/12] x86/ticketlock: make __ticket_spin_trylock common Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-07-17  1:03 ` [PATCH RFC 02/12] x86/ticketlock: convert spin loop to C Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-08-02 15:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-02 15:17     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-08-06 12:43       ` Jan Beulich
2010-08-06 14:53         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-08-06 20:17           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-08-06 20:33             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-08-06 21:09               ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-08-06 22:03                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-07-17  1:03 ` [PATCH RFC 04/12] x86/ticketlock: make large and small ticket versions of spin_lock the same Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-07-17  1:03 ` [PATCH RFC 12/12] x86/pvticketlock: use callee-save for unlock_kick as well Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-07-17  1:03 ` [PATCH RFC 07/12] x86/spinlocks: replace pv spinlocks with pv ticketlocks Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-07-17  1:03 ` [PATCH RFC 03/12] x86/ticketlock: Use C for __ticket_spin_unlock Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-07-20 15:38   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-07-20 16:17     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-08-06 17:47       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-08-06 20:03         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-07-17  1:03 ` [PATCH RFC 11/12] x86/pvticketlock: use callee-save for lock_spinning Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-07-17  1:03 ` [PATCH RFC 10/12] x86/pvticketlock: keep count of blocked cpus Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-08-03  8:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-03  9:44     ` Nick Piggin
2010-08-03 15:45     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-07-03  0:20 [PATCH RFC 09/12] xen/pvticketlock: Xen implementation for PV ticket locks Jeremy Fitzhardinge

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