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From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Sander Eikelenboom <linux@eikelenboom.it>
Cc: xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: Load increase after memory upgrade (part2)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 16:02:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120117210225.GA23782@phenom.dumpdata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1383590207.20120115123259@eikelenboom.it>

> The thing i was wondering about is if my AMD IOMMU is actually doing something for PV guests.
> When booting with iommu=off machine has 8GB mem, dom0 limited to 1024M and just starting one domU with iommu=soft, with pci-passthrough and the USB pci-cards with USB videograbbers attached to it, i would expect to find some bounce buffering going.
> 
>                 (HV_START_LOW 18446603336221196288)
>                 (FEATURES '!writable_page_tables|pae_pgdir_above_4gb')
>                 (VIRT_BASE 18446744071562067968)
>                 (GUEST_VERSION 2.6)
>                 (PADDR_OFFSET 0)
>                 (GUEST_OS linux)
>                 (HYPERCALL_PAGE 18446744071578849280)
>                 (LOADER generic)
>                 (SUSPEND_CANCEL 1)
>                 (PAE_MODE yes)
>                 (ENTRY 18446744071594476032)
>                 (XEN_VERSION xen-3.0)
> 
> Still i only see:
> 
> [   47.449072] Starting SWIOTLB debug thread.
> [   47.449090] swiotlb_start_thread: Go!
> [   47.449262] xen_swiotlb_start_thread: Go!
> [   52.449158] 0 [ehci_hcd 0000:0a:00.3] bounce: from:432(slow:0)to:1329 map:1756 unmap:1781 sync:0

There is bouncing there.
..
> [  172.449102] 0 [ehci_hcd 0000:0a:00.7] bounce: from:3839(slow:0)to:664 map:4486 unmap:4617 sync:0

And there.. 3839 of them.
> [  172.449123] 1 [ehci_hcd 0000:0a:00.7] bounce: from:0(slow:0)to:82 map:111 unmap:0 sync:0
> [  172.449130] 2 [ehci_hcd 0000:0a:00.7] bounce: from:0(slow:0)to:32 map:36 unmap:0 sync:0
> [  172.449170] SWIOTLB is 0% full
> [  177.449109] 0 [ehci_hcd 0000:0a:00.7] bounce: from:5348(slow:0)to:524 map:5834 unmap:5952 sync:0

And 5348 here!

So bounce-buffering is definitly happening with this guest.
.. snip..
> 
> And the devices do work ... so how does that work ...

Most (all?) drivers are written to work with bounce-buffering.
That has never been a problem.

The issue as I understand is that the DVB drivers allocate their buffers
from 0->4GB most (all the time?) so they never have to do bounce-buffering.

While the pv-ops one ends up quite frequently doing the bounce-buffering, which
implies that the DVB drivers end up allocating their buffers above the 4GB.
This means we end up spending some CPU time (in the guest) copying the memory
from >4GB to 0-4GB region (And vice-versa).

And I am not clear why this is happening. Hence my thought
was to run an Xen-O-Linux kernel v2.6.3X and a PVOPS v2.6.3X (where X is the
same) with the same PCI device (and the test would entail rebooting the
box in between the launches) to confirm that the Xen-O-Linux is doing something
that the PVOPS is not.

So far, I've haven't had much luck compiling a Xen-O-Linux v2.6.38 kernel
so :-(

> 
> Thx for your explanation so far !

Sure thing.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-17 21:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-24 12:28 Load increase after memory upgrade (part2) Carsten Schiers
2011-11-25 18:42 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-11-25 22:11   ` Carsten Schiers
2011-11-28 15:28     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-11-28 15:40       ` Ian Campbell
2011-11-28 16:45         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-11-29  8:31           ` Jan Beulich
2011-11-29  9:31             ` Carsten Schiers
2011-11-29  9:46           ` Carsten Schiers
2011-11-29 10:23           ` Ian Campbell
2011-11-29 15:33             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-12-02 15:23               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-12-04 11:59                 ` Carsten Schiers
2011-12-04 12:09                 ` Carsten Schiers
2011-12-06  3:26                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-12-14 20:23                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-12-14 22:07                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-12-15 14:52                         ` Carsten Schiers
2011-12-16 14:56                         ` Carsten Schiers
2011-12-16 15:04                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-12-16 15:51                             ` Carsten Schiers
2011-12-16 16:19                               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-12-17 22:12                                 ` Carsten Schiers
2011-12-18  0:19                                   ` Sander Eikelenboom
2011-12-19 14:56                                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-01-10 21:55                                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-01-12 22:06                                         ` Sander Eikelenboom
2012-01-13  8:12                                           ` Jan Beulich
2012-01-13 15:13                                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-01-15 11:32                                             ` Sander Eikelenboom
2012-01-17 21:02                                               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2012-01-18 11:28                                                 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2012-01-18 11:39                                                   ` Jan Beulich
2012-01-18 11:35                                                 ` Jan Beulich
2012-01-18 14:29                                                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-01-23 22:32                                                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-01-24  8:58                                                       ` Jan Beulich
2012-01-24 14:17                                                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-01-24 21:32                                                       ` Carsten Schiers
2012-01-25 12:02                                                       ` Carsten Schiers
2012-01-25 19:06                                                       ` Carsten Schiers
2012-01-25 21:02                                                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-02-15 19:28                                                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-02-16  8:56                                                           ` Jan Beulich
2012-02-17 15:07                                                             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-02-28 14:35                                                               ` Carsten Schiers
2012-02-29 12:10                                                                 ` Carsten Schiers
2012-02-29 12:56                                                                   ` Carsten Schiers
2012-05-11  9:39                                                                     ` Carsten Schiers
2012-05-11 19:41                                                                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-06-13 16:55                                                                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-06-14  7:07                                                                           ` Jan Beulich
2012-06-14 18:33                                                                             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-06-14 18:43                                                                             ` Carsten Schiers
2012-06-14  8:38                                                                           ` David Vrabel
2012-06-14 18:31                                                                             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-06-14 18:40                                                                           ` Carsten Schiers
2012-06-14 19:16                                                                             ` Carsten Schiers
2011-12-19 14:54                                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-12-04 12:18                 ` Carsten Schiers
2011-11-28 16:58         ` Laszlo Ersek
2011-11-29  9:37         ` Carsten Schiers
2011-11-28 15:52       ` Carsten Schiers
2011-11-26  9:14   ` Carsten Schiers
2011-11-28 15:30     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-11-29  9:42       ` Carsten Schiers

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