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From: Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: PoD code killing domain before it really gets started
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:00:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120807100029.GC84051@ocelot.phlegethon.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5020E13F02000078000931DA@nat28.tlf.novell.com>

Hi,

At 08:34 +0100 on 07 Aug (1344328495), Jan Beulich wrote:
> >>> On 06.08.12 at 18:03, George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
> > I guess there are two problems with that:
> > * As you've seen, apparently dom0 may access these pages before any
> > faults happen.
> > * If it happens that reclaim_single is below the only zeroed page, the
> > guest will crash even when there is reclaim-able memory available.
> > 
> > Two ways we could fix this:
> > 1. Remove dom0 accesses (what on earth could be looking at a
> > not-yet-created VM?)
> 
> I'm told it's a monitoring daemon, and yes, they are intending to
> adjust it to first query the GFN's type (and don't do the access
> when it's not populated, yet). But wait, I didn't check the code
> when I recommended this - XEN_DOMCTL_getpageframeinfo{2,3)
> also call get_page_from_gfn() with P2M_ALLOC, so would also
> trigger the PoD code (in -unstable at least) - Tim, was that really
> a correct adjustment in 25355:974ad81bb68b? It looks to be a
> 1:1 translation, but is that really necessary?

AFAICT 25355:974ad81bb68b doesn't change anything.  Back in 4.1-testing
the lookup was done with gmfn_to_mfn(), which boils down to a lookup
with p2m_alloc.

> If one wanted to find out whether a page is PoD to avoid getting it
> populated, how would that be done from outside the hypervisor? Would
> we need XEN_DOMCTL_getpageframeinfo4 for this?

We'd certainly need _some_ change to the hypercall interface, as there's
no XEN_DOMCTL_PFINFO_ rune for 'PoD', and presumably you'd want to know
the difference between PoD and not-present.

> > 2. Allocate the PoD cache before populating the p2m table

Any reason not to do this?

Tim.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-07 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-26 14:41 PoD code killing domain before it really gets started Jan Beulich
2012-07-26 15:37 ` Jan Beulich
2012-07-26 16:14 ` George Dunlap
2012-07-27  6:45   ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-06 13:57   ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-06 14:12     ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-06 16:03       ` George Dunlap
2012-08-07  7:34         ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-07 10:00           ` Tim Deegan [this message]
2012-08-07 10:32             ` George Dunlap
2012-08-07 11:03             ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-07 10:20           ` George Dunlap
2012-08-07 11:05             ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-07 12:17         ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-07 13:13           ` George Dunlap
2012-08-07 13:29             ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-07 15:08               ` George Dunlap
2012-08-07 15:36                 ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-09  8:37                 ` Jan Beulich
     [not found] <mailman.10292.1344326858.1399.xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
2012-08-07 14:40 ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2012-08-07 15:04   ` George Dunlap
2012-08-07 15:36     ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla

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