From: Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Malcolm Crossley <malcolm.crossley@citrix.com>,
eddie.dong@intel.com, Ian.Campbell@citrix.com,
jun.nakajima@intel.com, xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] xen: vmx: Use an INT 2 call to process real NMI's instead of self_nmi() in VMEXIT handler
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:56:22 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121116105622.GA89551@ocelot.phlegethon.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50A6024F02000078000A9214@nat28.tlf.novell.com>
At 08:07 +0000 on 16 Nov (1353053247), Jan Beulich wrote:
> I continue to not be in favor of special casing this in VMX code,
> considering that the problem is generic (i.e. similarly affects PV).
> I.e. either we handle the other case similarly (special code added
> also to the PV code path), or we deal with this in a single place,
> keeping the NMIs masked for an extended period of time.
Affects PV because PV might use SYSRET to return from the NMI handler?
Right.
> > All of this would be moot except for the risk that we might take an MCE
> > while in the NMI handler. The IRET from the MCE handler re-enables NMIs
> > while we're still in the NMI handler, and a second NMI arriving could
> > break the NMI handler. In the PV case, it will also clobber the NMI
> > handler's stack.
>
> No - the entry code switches away from the dedicated stacks when
> the origin was in guest context (see handle_ist_exception in
> xen/arch/x86/x86_64/entry.S).
I see, thanks. So it's only if we take the NMI while in the hypervisor
that we stay on the NMI stack and risk getting the stack clobbered.
> > We could potentially solve the problem by having the MCE handler check
> > whether it's returning to the NMI stack, and do a normal return in that
> > case. It's a bit of extra code but only in the MCE handler, which is
> > not performance-critical.
>
> Yes, that could solve that nesting case (again not very difficult
> to implement).
How about we just have the MCE handler return without IRET in _all_
cases where it's returning to ring 0? I think that entirely solves the
MCE-in-NMI problem, without all the extra mechanism meeded for the
linux-style solution. (Unless we want to allow other traps in either
the NMI or MCE handlers).
[And it occurs to me that the linux-style solution is tricky because
detecting the case where you've taken an NMI and not yet set the
nmi-in-progress flag is hard in both SVM (in the NMI handler but on the
normal stack) and VMX (in the _vmexit_ handler and on the normal
stack).]
So I guess now I'm suggesting:
- MCE never returns to Xen with IRET;
- NMI handling in handle_vmexit() moves to beside the MCE handling;
- Explicit IRET-to-self at the end of do_nmi() to unmask NMIs; and
- no int $2. :)
How's that? I feel sure I must have missed a case - itt sounds too
easy.
Tim.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-11-16 10:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-11-13 20:08 [PATCH V2] xen: vmx: Use an INT 2 call to process real NMI's instead of self_nmi() in VMEXIT handler Malcolm Crossley
2012-11-14 10:06 ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-15 16:41 ` Tim Deegan
2012-11-15 16:52 ` Andrew Cooper
2012-11-15 17:25 ` Tim Deegan
2012-11-16 8:17 ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-16 9:59 ` Mats Petersson
2012-11-16 10:18 ` Keir Fraser
2012-11-15 17:03 ` Mats Petersson
2012-11-15 17:15 ` Tim Deegan
2012-11-15 17:33 ` Mats Petersson
2012-11-15 17:44 ` Tim Deegan
2012-11-15 18:23 ` Mats Petersson
2012-11-16 8:07 ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-16 10:56 ` Tim Deegan [this message]
2012-11-16 11:23 ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-16 11:52 ` Andrew Cooper
2012-11-16 13:53 ` Tim Deegan
2012-11-16 14:11 ` Andrew Cooper
2012-11-22 8:58 ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-22 10:52 ` Andrew Cooper
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