From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: Sander Eikelenboom <linux@eikelenboom.it>,
ANNIE LI <annie.li@oracle.com>,
xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: xennet: skb rides the rocket: 20 slots
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 12:05:30 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130109170530.GC20683@phenom.dumpdata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1357749241.7989.280.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com>
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 04:34:01PM +0000, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-01-09 at 15:08 +0000, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 03:10:56PM +0800, ANNIE LI wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2013-1-9 4:55, Sander Eikelenboom wrote:
> > > >> if (unlikely(frags>= MAX_SKB_FRAGS)) {
> > > >> netdev_dbg(vif->dev, "Too many frags\n");
> > > >> return -frags;
> > > >> }
> > > >I have added some rate limited warns in this function. However none seems to be triggered while the pv-guest reports the "skb rides the rocket" ..
> > >
> > > Oh, yes, "skb rides the rocket" is a protect mechanism in netfront,
> > > and it is not caused by netback checking code, but they all concern
> > > about the same thing(frags >= MAX_SKB_FRAGS ). I thought those
> > > packets were dropped by backend check, sorry for the confusion.
> > >
> > > In netfront, following code would check whether required slots
> > > exceed MAX_SKB_FRAGS, and drop skbs which does not meet this
> > > requirement directly.
> > >
> > > if (unlikely(slots > MAX_SKB_FRAGS + 1)) {
> > > net_alert_ratelimited(
> > > "xennet: skb rides the rocket: %d slots\n", slots);
> > > goto drop;
> > > }
> > >
> > > In netback, following code also compared frags with MAX_SKB_FRAGS,
> > > and create error response for netfront which does not meet this
> > > requirment. In this case, netfront will also drop corresponding
> > > skbs.
> > >
> > > if (unlikely(frags >= MAX_SKB_FRAGS)) {
> > > netdev_dbg(vif->dev, "Too many frags\n");
> > > return -frags;
> > > }
> > >
> > > So it is correct that netback log was not print out because those
> > > packets are drops directly by frontend check, not by backend check.
> > > Without the frontend check, it is likely that netback check would
> > > block these skbs and create error response for netfront.
> > >
> > > So two ways are available: workaround in netfront for those packets,
> > > doing re-fragment copying, but not sure how copying hurt
> > > performance. Another is to implement in netback, as discussed in
> >
> > There is already some copying done (the copying of the socket data
> > from userspace to the kernel) - so the extra copy might not be that
> > bad as the data can be in the cache. This would probably be a way
> > to deal with old backends that cannot deal with this new feature-flag.
>
> Or for any backend which doesn't handle enough slots for the current
> skb. Essentially you need to do a fragmentation in software in the
> frontend.
>
> For backends which don't support the flag we should just hardcode some
> number (some historically common value) as the default unless
> negotiation says otherwise, no need to copy everything...
>
> >
> > > "netchannel vs MAX_SKB_FRAGS". Maybe these two mechanism are all
> > > necessary?
> >
> > Lets see first if this is indeed the problem. Perhaps a simple debug
> > patch that just does:
> >
> > s/MAX_SKB_FRAGS/DEBUG_MAX_FRAGS/
> > #define DEBUG_MAX_FRAGS 21
>
> Do you mean to do this globally or just in the netfront (or back)
> driver?
Our frontend and backend driver.
>
> Doing it globally would just be a case of changing the define, without
> the s//, but there would be performance implications to growing the
> shinfo.
>
> Just changing netfront won't work because there will only be
> MAX_SKB_FRAGS in the skb's shinfo so you won't be able to add any more.
Oh, then doing the negotiation for the "slots" is gated to a maximum
of MAX_SKB_FRAGS. Hmmm.. that presents a problem for this bug as
just negotiating the max_skb_frags feature won't solve the "riding the rocket"
problem.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-01-09 17:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-01-04 16:28 xennet: skb rides the rocket: 20 slots Sander Eikelenboom
2013-01-07 10:55 ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-07 12:30 ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-01-07 13:27 ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-07 14:05 ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-01-07 14:12 ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-08 2:12 ` ANNIE LI
2013-01-08 10:05 ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-08 10:16 ` Paul Durrant
2013-01-08 20:57 ` James Harper
2013-01-08 22:04 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-08 20:55 ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-01-09 7:10 ` ANNIE LI
2013-01-09 15:08 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-09 16:34 ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-09 17:05 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2013-01-09 18:02 ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-10 11:22 ` ANNIE LI
2013-01-10 12:24 ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-01-10 12:26 ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-10 15:39 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-10 16:25 ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-11 7:34 ` ANNIE LI
2013-01-11 9:56 ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-11 10:09 ` Paul Durrant
2013-01-11 10:16 ` Ian Campbell
[not found] ` <50F3D269.6030601@oracle.com>
2013-03-09 12:56 ` Fwd: " Sander Eikelenboom
[not found] ` <19010312768.20130124094542@eikelenboom.it>
2013-03-09 12:57 ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-03-10 5:22 ` ANNIE LI
2013-03-12 11:37 ` Ian Campbell
2013-03-15 5:14 ` annie li
2013-03-15 21:29 ` Sander Eikelenboom
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