* Xen, oprofile, perf, PEBS, event counters, PVHVM, PV
@ 2013-01-14 20:45 Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-15 9:13 ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-15 17:11 ` Marcus Granado
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk @ 2013-01-14 20:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: marcus.granado, msw, JBeulich, boris.ostrovsky, jacob.shin,
Sherry.Hurwitz, jun.nakajima, kurt.hackel, Marcos.Matsunaga,
andrew.thomas, xen-devel
I've been looking at doing some perf analysis of block and network
backend to get a better idea whether the things I spotted in the ring
protocol are indeed a problem.
But ran in to a problem of actually trying to use the performance tools.
What I am wondering if the folks on this email have also run in similar
issues? This is with oprofile in the Linux kernel backported by
Michel Petullo and fixed by me (thought I might have introduced
bugs too):
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/konrad/xen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/devel/oprofile.v1
with Xen 4.3-unstable.
a). 32/64 compat is missing backtrace support. If you run with a 32-bit dom0
and try to set the backtrace, the hypervisor sets is as -some-huge-number.
It might be there are some other hypercalls that need some compat tweaks.
b). 32-bit dom0 oprofile toolstack truncates the EIP of 64-bit guests
(or hypervisor). I am not really sure how to solve that except just
not run 64-bit guests/hypervisor with a 32-bit dom0. Or make
oprofile and its tools capable of doing 64-bit architecture.
The vice-versa condition does not exist - so I can profile 32-bit
guests using a 64-bit dom0.
c). HVM guest tracing. I tried running oprofile with an PVHVM Linux
guest (32 or 64-bit) and I get data, but the /dev/oprofile/* worryingly
tells me that the sample_invalid_eip is about 10%. So 10% of the sample
data is unknown.
c1). HVM did not profile on Intel (had not tried AMD). Andrew Thomas suggested
a patch which did indeed fix the problem. (see attached)
d). opreport. I had the most difficult time understanding it. I finally
figured it out that it collapses guest's vcpu information on-to the domain
0 vcpu. So if you run something like this:
Domain-0 0 0 0 r-- 27.1 0
Domain-0 0 1 1 -b- 6.3 1
Domain-0 0 2 2 -b- 5.3 2
Domain-0 0 3 3 --- 10.6 3
backend 1 0 1 r-- 22.2 0-1
backend 1 1 0 -b- 23.7 0-1
netperf 2 0 2 -b- 11.0 2
netserver 3 0 3 r-- 12.8 3
The opreport is going to show me netperf vcpu0, netserver vcpu0 and backend vcp0
all on the domain0's vcpu0. So if I run the oprofile long enough and do:
opreport -l vmlinux-netperf xen-syms -t
CPU: Intel Sandy Bridge microarchitecture, speed 3092.89 MHz (estimated)
Counted CPU_CLK_UNHALTED events (Clock cycles when not halted) with a unit mask of 0x00 (No unit mask) count 90000
Samples on CPU 0
Samples on CPU 1
Samples on CPU 2
Samples on CPU 3
samples % samples % samples % samples % image name app name symbol name
13058 3.5286 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm get_page_from_gfn_p2m
12671 3.4240 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm hap_p2m_ga_to_gfn_4_levels
11382 3.0757 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm hap_gva_to_gfn_4_levels
9276 2.5066 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm __hvm_copy
9146 2.4715 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm paging_gva_to_gfn
8069 2.1804 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm guest_walk_tables_4_levels
7228 1.9532 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm __get_gfn_type_access
6387 1.7259 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm gnttab_copy
6216 1.6797 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm ept_get_entry
6091 1.6459 0 0 0 0 0 0 vmlinux-netperf qemu-dm inet_sendmsg
5954 1.6089 0 0 0 0 0 0 vmlinux-netperf qemu-dm sock_sendmsg
5865 1.5849 0 0 0 0 0 0 vmlinux-netperf qemu-dm handle_irq_event_percpu
5851 1.5811 0 0 0 0 0 0 vmlinux-netperf qemu-dm handle_irq_event
5771 1.5595 0 0 0 0 0 0 vmlinux-netperf qemu-dm xennet_interrupt
5697 1.5395 0 0 0 0 0 0 vmlinux-netperf qemu-dm xennet_tx_buf_gc
5567 1.5043 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm do_grant_table_op
5520 1.4916 0 0 0 0 0 0 vmlinux-netperf qemu-dm sys_sendto
5116 1.3825 0 0 0 0 0 0 vmlinux-netperf qemu-dm system_call_fastpath
4857 1.3125 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm memcpy
4429 1.1968 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm hvm_grant_table_op
4350 1.1755 0 0 0 0 0 0 vmlinux-netperf qemu-dm gnttab_end_foreign_access_ref
4326 1.1690 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm page_get_owner_and_reference
4256 1.1501 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm hvm_do_hypercall
4205 1.1363 0 0 0 0 0 0 vmlinux-netperf qemu-dm gnttab_end_foreign_access_ref_v1
4056 1.0960 0 0 0 0 0 0 vmlinux-netperf qemu-dm __copy_user_nocache
3817 1.0314 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm map_domain_gfn
which seems valid enough - vcpu0 on _all_ of the guest is the place where the action is happening.
But that is not neccessarily the right pCPU!
But if I do it for the backend (which has two vcpus):
CPU: Intel Sandy Bridge microarchitecture, speed 3092.89 MHz (estimated)
Counted CPU_CLK_UNHALTED events (Clock cycles when not halted) with a unit mask of 0x00 (No unit mask) count 90000
Samples on CPU 0
Samples on CPU 1
Samples on CPU 2
Samples on CPU 3
samples % samples % samples % samples % image name app name symbol name
13058 4.2539 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm get_page_from_gfn_p2m
12671 4.1278 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm hap_p2m_ga_to_gfn_4_levels
11382 3.7079 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm hap_gva_to_gfn_4_levels
9276 3.0219 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm __hvm_copy
9146 2.9795 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm paging_gva_to_gfn
8069 2.6286 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm guest_walk_tables_4_levels
7228 2.3547 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm __get_gfn_type_access
6387 2.0807 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm gnttab_copy
6216 2.0250 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm ept_get_entry
5567 1.8136 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm do_grant_table_op
4857 1.5823 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm memcpy
4429 1.4428 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm hvm_grant_table_op
4326 1.4093 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm page_get_owner_and_reference
4256 1.3865 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm hvm_do_hypercall
3817 1.2435 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm map_domain_gfn
3661 1.1926 0 0 0 0 0 0 vmlinux-backend qemu-dm xen_netbk_kthread
3319 1.0812 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm ept_next_level
3237 1.0545 0 0 0 0 0 0 vmlinux-backend qemu-dm kthread
3097 1.0089 0 0 0 0 0 0 xen-syms qemu-dm hvm_copy_to_guest_virt_nofault
somehow the vcpu1 is gone. Albeit if I split it up:
opreport -l vmlinux-backend xen-syms -t 1 cpu:0
opreport -l vmlinux-backend xen-syms -t 1 cpu:1
I can get some values.
e). If I look at how the guests are utilized, combined with 'xl vcpu-list' it appears
to me that the pCPU0 is the most used one.
Mem: 8208716k total, 6435216k used, 1773500k free CPUs: 4 @ 3092MHz
NAME STATE CPU(sec) CPU(%) MEM(k) MEM(%) MAXMEM(k) MAXMEM(%) VCPUS NETS NETTX(k) NETRX(k) VBDS VBD_OO VBD_RD VBD_WR VBD_RSECT VBD_WSECT SSID
backend -----r 3889 172.1 2093004 25.5 2098176 25.6 2 0 0 0 1 0 9 0 96 0 0
domain-0 -----r 125 3.5 2097140 25.5 2097152 25.5 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
netperf --b--- 1064 47.8 1044444 12.7 1049600 12.8 1 0 0 0 1 0 8 0 56 0 0
netserver -----r 1328 59.8 1044444 12.7 1049600 12.8 1 0 0 0 1 0 8 0 56 0 0
and xentrace/xenalyze tell me that the backend domain is busy:
|-- Domain 3 --|
Runstates:
blocked: 3 0.00s 21733 { 28204| 28204| 28204}
partial run: 342975 6.52s 45613 { 14187| 84608|113476}
full run: 362709 28.23s 186763 { 83904|369588|399732}
partial contention: 997 0.82s 1977180 {5596136|5804072|47488112}
concurrency_hazard: 353528 1.72s 11677 { 8977| 10056|322393}
full_contention: 6 0.00s 5136 { 5040| 5228| 5400}
lost: 864 1.37s 3814508 {351182583|1296246349|1296246349}
(if I drill in deeper, vcpu 0 is busy doing grant table operations
(56% of the VMCALL exits are b/c of it, the vcpu1 is busy getting IPIed, the
/proc/cpuinfo in the guest collaborates with that information).
So I would have expected the oprofile numbers to be more serious that then occasional 4% or so
here and there.
Oh, that is what the "-a" argument is for!:
(here it is with a bit trimming done)
samples cum. samples % app name symbol name
13058 13058 4.2518 4.2518 xen-syms qemu-dm get_page_from_gfn_p2m
12671 25729 4.1258 8.3776 xen-syms qemu-dm hap_p2m_ga_to_gfn_4_levels
11382 37111 3.7061 12.0837 xen-syms qemu-dm hap_gva_to_gfn_4_levels
9276 46387 3.0204 15.1041 xen-syms qemu-dm __hvm_copy
9146 55533 2.9780 18.0822 xen-syms qemu-dm paging_gva_to_gfn
8069 63602 2.6274 20.7095 xen-syms qemu-dm guest_walk_tables_4_levels
7228 70830 2.3535 23.0630 xen-syms qemu-dm __get_gfn_type_access
6387 77217 2.0797 25.1427 xen-syms qemu-dm gnttab_copy
6216 83433 2.0240 27.1667 xen-syms qemu-dm ept_get_entry
5567 89000 1.8127 28.9794 xen-syms qemu-dm do_grant_table_op
4857 93857 1.5815 30.5609 xen-syms qemu-dm memcpy
4429 98286 1.4421 32.0030 xen-syms qemu-dm hvm_grant_table_op
4326 102612 1.4086 33.4116 xen-syms qemu-dm page_get_owner_and_reference
4256 106868 1.3858 34.7974 xen-syms qemu-dm hvm_do_hypercall
3817 110685 1.2429 36.0402 xen-syms qemu-dm map_domain_gfn
3661 114346 1.1921 37.2323 vmlinux-backend qemu-dm xen_netbk_kthread
so 36% of the pCPU time is spent in the hypervisor (I think?).
Q: Can xenalyze tell me that as well? That the pCPU1 is pegged at 100%?
f). oprofile counters on Intel and the hypercalls. It looks like the counters that oprofile
is using are the valid MSR_P6_PERFCTR0 and MSR_P6_EVNTSEL0. It has no notion of
fixed counters or unicore counters. So for example on the SandyBridge it will report
8 counters (and try to clear MSR_P6_PERFCTR0+8).
Even thought there are three event-based ones, four fixed, and one uncore.
It also is missing support for some Intel architectures (Model 44 for example - the Westmere).
In other words, it looks like the Linux and hypervisor oprofile support has not been
maintained for some time. I don't know how it works on AMD as I just took a look at
this last week.
g). There are no code that takes advantage of the PEBS or the unicore events to get
a full featured trace (did you know that PEBS can also collect the register information!)
g1). Linux perf looks to be using a garden variety vector instead of doing it via
the NMI. Could we do it too? Or would that be inappropiate? I am not sure whether
that can actually be done for the event type counters. Perhaps this is only for
the fixed ones and uncore ones.
h). There are some counters in the hypervisor for the oprofile statistics, like
lost samples, etc. I does not look like they are exported/printed anywhere. Perhaps
an 'register_keyhandler' should be written to dump those (and also which domains
are profiled).
h1). I can't find any reference to DOM_IDLE which probably should also be accounted
for? Or DOM_IO (perhaps less since it does not seem to be in usage).
i). opreports often tells me
warning: /domain1-apps could not be found.
warning: /domain1-modules could not be found.
warning: /domain1-xen-unknown could not be found.
warning: /domain2-apps could not be found.
warning: /domain2-modules could not be found.
warning: /domain2-xen-unknown could not be found.
warning: /domain3-apps could not be found.
warning: /domain3-modules could not be found.
warning: /domain3-xen-unknown could not be found.
warning: /vmlinux-unknown could not be found.
warning: /xen-unknown could not be found.
which is odd, b/c I did specify:
opcontrol --start --passive-domains=1,2,3 \
--passive-images=/shared/vmlinux-backend,/shared/vmlinux-netperf,/shared/vmlinux-netserver \
--xen=/shared/xen-syms --vmlinux=/shared/vmlinux-dom0 \
--buffer-size=256000 \
-c=5 --separate=cpu,kernel --event=CPU_CLK_UNHALTED:90000:0x0:1:0
so is it just the toolstack being silly?
Anyhow, I don't know if it just me not realizing how to use 'opreport' to get per
guest or per vcpu information but I find it hard to use. I like how the 'perf top'
can instantly give an excellent idea of the whole machine status. Maybe that is
why folks in the Linux community really wanted something else than oprofile.
And it occurs to me it could be possible be to make some inroads on making
performance monitoring easier:
1). fix the glaring omissions in oprofile for the new CPUs
2). Add a register keyhandle to get some debug info.
3). piggyback on oprofile hypercalls and insert some bridge in perf (lots
of handwaving here). Or perhaps emulate in the Linux kernel the
wmsrs (so xen_safe_wrmsrs) and have the pvops kernel based on the MSRs
make the hypercalls to setup the buffers, etc.
3a). new hypercalls? intercept rdmsr/wrmsrs and stuff the right data
in the initial domain? Other thoughts?
4). Extend perf to have '--xen' so it can also look at the xen-hypervisor
ELF file.
diff --git a/xen/arch/x86/hvm/vmx/vmx.c b/xen/arch/x86/hvm/vmx/vmx.c
index aee1f9e..16db4fe 100644
--- a/xen/arch/x86/hvm/vmx/vmx.c
+++ b/xen/arch/x86/hvm/vmx/vmx.c
@@ -58,6 +58,9 @@
enum handler_return { HNDL_done, HNDL_unhandled, HNDL_exception_raised };
+//extern void do_nmi(void);
+extern bool_t alternative_nmi;
+
static void vmx_ctxt_switch_from(struct vcpu *v);
static void vmx_ctxt_switch_to(struct vcpu *v);
@@ -2441,8 +2444,16 @@ void vmx_vmexit_handler(struct cpu_user_regs *regs)
if ( (intr_info & INTR_INFO_INTR_TYPE_MASK) !=
(X86_EVENTTYPE_NMI << 8) )
goto exit_and_crash;
+ HVM_DBG_LOG(DBG_LEVEL_VMMU,
+ "NMI eax=%lx, ebx=%lx, ecx=%lx, edx=%lx, esi=%lx, edi=%lx",
+ (unsigned long)regs->eax, (unsigned long)regs->ebx,
+ (unsigned long)regs->ecx, (unsigned long)regs->edx,
+ (unsigned long)regs->esi, (unsigned long)regs->edi);
HVMTRACE_0D(NMI);
- self_nmi(); /* Real NMI, vector 2: normal processing. */
+ if (alternative_nmi)
+ do_nmi(regs);
+ else
+ self_nmi(); /* Real NMI, vector 2: normal processing. */
break;
case TRAP_machine_check:
HVMTRACE_0D(MCE);
diff --git a/xen/arch/x86/nmi.c b/xen/arch/x86/nmi.c
index 4fd6711..3e61e3e 100644
--- a/xen/arch/x86/nmi.c
+++ b/xen/arch/x86/nmi.c
@@ -40,6 +40,8 @@ static unsigned int nmi_p4_cccr_val;
static DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct timer, nmi_timer);
static DEFINE_PER_CPU(unsigned int, nmi_timer_ticks);
+bool_t alternative_nmi = 0;
+boolean_param("alternative_nmi", alternative_nmi);
/* opt_watchdog: If true, run a watchdog NMI on each processor. */
bool_t __initdata opt_watchdog = 0;
boolean_param("watchdog", opt_watchdog);
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* Re: Xen, oprofile, perf, PEBS, event counters, PVHVM, PV
2013-01-14 20:45 Xen, oprofile, perf, PEBS, event counters, PVHVM, PV Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
@ 2013-01-15 9:13 ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-15 17:11 ` Marcus Granado
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jan Beulich @ 2013-01-15 9:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
Cc: msw, andrew.thomas, boris.ostrovsky, jacob.shin, kurt.hackel,
marcus.granado, xen-devel, Marcos.Matsunaga, jun.nakajima,
Sherry.Hurwitz
>>> On 14.01.13 at 21:45, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com> wrote:
> a). 32/64 compat is missing backtrace support. If you run with a 32-bit dom0
> and try to set the backtrace, the hypervisor sets is as -some-huge-number.
> It might be there are some other hypercalls that need some compat
> tweaks.
dump_guest_backtrace() actually looks to be prepared to deal
with 32-bit guests.
Jan
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* Re: Xen, oprofile, perf, PEBS, event counters, PVHVM, PV
2013-01-14 20:45 Xen, oprofile, perf, PEBS, event counters, PVHVM, PV Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-15 9:13 ` Jan Beulich
@ 2013-01-15 17:11 ` Marcus Granado
2013-01-16 4:47 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-18 15:43 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
1 sibling, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Marcus Granado @ 2013-01-15 17:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
Cc: Marcus Granado, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, msw@amazon.com,
andrew.thomas@oracle.com, jun.nakajima@intel.com,
boris.ostrovsky@amd.com, jacob.shin@amd.com,
kurt.hackel@oracle.com, Marcos.Matsunaga@oracle.com,
JBeulich@suse.com, Sherry.Hurwitz@amd.com
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On 14/01/13 20:45, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> a). 32/64 compat is missing backtrace support. If you run with a 32-bit dom0
> and try to set the backtrace, the hypervisor sets is as -some-huge-number.
> It might be there are some other hypercalls that need some compat tweaks.
It's not clear to me if it is the same issue, but there was some work to
make xenoprof's callgraph work with 32-bit domains on a 64-bit xen here:
http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2012-01/msg01721.html
The patch should be nowin xen but it requires a one-linechange in the
32-bit dom0 kernel matching this one in xen:
http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2012-01/txt4qZ7uGGPTc.txt
> b). 32-bit dom0 oprofile toolstack truncates the EIP of 64-bit guests
> (or hypervisor). I am not really sure how to solve that except just
> not run 64-bit guests/hypervisor with a 32-bit dom0. Or make
> oprofile and its tools capable of doing 64-bit architecture.
> The vice-versa condition does not exist - so I can profile 32-bit
> guests using a 64-bit dom0.
Afaics, the 32-bit dom0 oprofile.ko module receives the 64-bit eips; the
XENOPROF_ESCAPE_CODE comparison is made as ULL in the kernel and seems
to work. This could be happening maybe in either opcontrol, oprofiled or
opreport, but with the patches above I obtained the following result in
an idle 32-bit dom0, which seems to display the correct 64-bit memory
location information for hypervisor functions:
|# opreport -lwc #(functions calling other functions):|
|CPU: Core ||2||, speed ||2493.77||MHz (estimated)|
|Counted CPU_CLK_UNHALTED events (Clock cycles when not halted) with a
unit mask of ||0x00||(Unhalted core cycles) count ||1000000|
|vma samples % image name app name symbol name|
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|||00000000000b9610 ||1||2.0000||libc-||2.5||.so
python getaddrinfo|
|||000000000000fad0 ||1||2.0000||libpthread-||2.5||.so
python _fini|
|||000000000000e790 ||3||6.0000||ld-||2.5||.so python
_dl_fini|
|||000000000002aec0 ||12||24.0000||libc-||2.5||.so
python msort_with_tmp|
|||0000000000004480||25||50.0000||_xslib.so python
init_xslib|
|0000000000000000||415746||22.5841||libpython2.||4||.so.||1.0||python
/usr/lib/libpython2.||4||.so.||1.0|
|||0000000000000000||415746||100.000||libpython2.||4||.so.||1.0||python
/usr/lib/libpython2.||4||.so.||1.0||[self]|
|...|
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|ffff82c480170470 ||36||0.1587||xen-syms qemu-dm
send_IPI_mask_flat|
|||ffff82c480170470 ||36||100.000||xen-syms qemu-dm
send_IPI_mask_flat [self]|
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|ffff82c480120d40 ||33||0.1455||xen-syms qemu-dm
cpumask_raise_softirq|
|||ffff82c480120d40 ||33||100.000||xen-syms qemu-dm
cpumask_raise_softirq [self] |
This quote from
http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2012-01/msg01721.htmlmay be
useful:
"
A few comments from my tests with oprofile 0.9.6 in userspace:
- to obtain callgraphs of the xen code, you need to enable
theCONFIG_FRAME_POINTER flag during compilation of the xen binary,
eg.using "make" with "frame_pointer=y".- if the oprofiled daemon is
running in a 32-bit guest, it needs toreceive the xen-range in 32-bits,
eg. --xen-image=/boot/xen-syms-4.1.1--xen-range=80100000,801fe5ee
"
> h). There are some counters in the hypervisor for the oprofile statistics, like
> lost samples, etc. I does not look like they are exported/printed anywhere. Perhaps
> an 'register_keyhandler' should be written to dump those (and also which domains
> are profiled).
I see some lost sample information when I run 'opcontrol --start
--verbose=all', 'opcontrol --deinit' and look at oprofiled.log, are
these the counters you are looking for?
# cat /var/lib/oprofile/samples/oprofiled.log
oprofiled started Tue Jan 15 16:02:00 2013
kernel pointer size: 4
Tue Jan 15 16:04:34 2013
-- OProfile Statistics --
Nr. sample dumps: 4
Nr. non-backtrace samples: 25508
Nr. kernel samples: 14344
Nr. lost samples (no kernel/user): 0
Nr. lost kernel samples: 0
Nr. incomplete code structs: 0
Nr. samples lost due to sample file open failure: 4569
Nr. samples lost due to no permanent mapping: 78
Nr. event lost due to buffer overflow: 0
Nr. samples lost due to no mapping: 20
Nr. backtraces skipped due to no file mapping: 0
Nr. samples lost due to no mm: 4727
---- Statistics for cpu : 3
Nr. samples lost cpu buffer overflow: 0
Nr. samples received: 11734
Nr. backtrace aborted: 0
Nr. samples lost invalid pc: 0
...
> i). opreports often tells me
> warning: /domain1-apps could not be found.
> warning: /domain1-modules could not be found.
> warning: /domain1-xen-unknown could not be found.
> warning: /domain2-apps could not be found.
> warning: /domain2-modules could not be found.
> warning: /domain2-xen-unknown could not be found.
> warning: /domain3-apps could not be found.
> warning: /domain3-modules could not be found.
> warning: /domain3-xen-unknown could not be found.
> warning: /vmlinux-unknown could not be found.
> warning: /xen-unknown could not be found.
These warnings remind me of what I was receiving for the dom0 kernel
modules, I fixed them by using -p for the modules in opreport:
# opreport -l -p/usr/lib/debug/lib/modules/`uname -r`
I guess opreport may be in need of this parameter pointing to the guest
kernel symbols.
> And it occurs to me it could be possible be to make some inroads on making
> performance monitoring easier:
>
> 1). fix the glaring omissions in oprofile for the new CPUs
> 2). Add a register keyhandle to get some debug info.
> 3). piggyback on oprofile hypercalls and insert some bridge in perf (lots
> of handwaving here). Or perhaps emulate in the Linux kernel the
> wmsrs (so xen_safe_wrmsrs) and have the pvops kernel based on the MSRs
> make the hypercalls to setup the buffers, etc.
>
> 3a). new hypercalls? intercept rdmsr/wrmsrs and stuff the right data
> in the initial domain? Other thoughts?
>
> 4). Extend perf to have '--xen' so it can also look at the xen-hypervisor
> ELF file.
5) live event reports from xenoprof/opreport, ala perf top.
6) ports of oprofile kernel modules for other oses (bsd, windows,
mirage), so that these oses can be used as active participants.
cheers,
Marcus
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* Re: Xen, oprofile, perf, PEBS, event counters, PVHVM, PV
2013-01-15 17:11 ` Marcus Granado
@ 2013-01-16 4:47 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-16 16:18 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2013-01-18 15:43 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk @ 2013-01-16 4:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marcus Granado
Cc: Marcus Granado, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, msw@amazon.com,
andrew.thomas@oracle.com, jun.nakajima@intel.com,
boris.ostrovsky@amd.com, jacob.shin@amd.com,
kurt.hackel@oracle.com, Marcos.Matsunaga@oracle.com,
JBeulich@suse.com, Sherry.Hurwitz@amd.com
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 05:11:01PM +0000, Marcus Granado wrote:
> On 14/01/13 20:45, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> >a). 32/64 compat is missing backtrace support. If you run with a 32-bit dom0
> > and try to set the backtrace, the hypervisor sets is as -some-huge-number.
> > It might be there are some other hypercalls that need some compat tweaks.
>
> It's not clear to me if it is the same issue, but there was some
> work to make xenoprof's callgraph work with 32-bit domains on a
> 64-bit xen here:
> http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2012-01/msg01721.html
> The patch should be nowin xen but it requires a one-linechange in
> the 32-bit dom0 kernel matching this one in xen:
> http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2012-01/txt4qZ7uGGPTc.txt
Oh, those look like the patches that would help. Could you repost
them and I can review them?
>
> >b). 32-bit dom0 oprofile toolstack truncates the EIP of 64-bit guests
> > (or hypervisor). I am not really sure how to solve that except just
> > not run 64-bit guests/hypervisor with a 32-bit dom0. Or make
> > oprofile and its tools capable of doing 64-bit architecture.
> > The vice-versa condition does not exist - so I can profile 32-bit
> > guests using a 64-bit dom0.
> Afaics, the 32-bit dom0 oprofile.ko module receives the 64-bit eips;
> the XENOPROF_ESCAPE_CODE comparison is made as ULL in the kernel and
> seems to work. This could be happening maybe in either opcontrol,
> oprofiled or opreport, but with the patches above I obtained the
> following result in an idle 32-bit dom0, which seems to display the
> correct 64-bit memory location information for hypervisor functions:
>
>
> |# opreport -lwc #(functions calling other functions):|
> |CPU: Core ||2||, speed ||2493.77||MHz (estimated)|
> |Counted CPU_CLK_UNHALTED events (Clock cycles when not halted) with
> a unit mask of ||0x00||(Unhalted core cycles) count ||1000000|
> |vma samples % image name app name symbol name|
> |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
> |||00000000000b9610 ||1||2.0000||libc-||2.5||.so python
> getaddrinfo|
> |||000000000000fad0 ||1||2.0000||libpthread-||2.5||.so python
> _fini|
> |||000000000000e790 ||3||6.0000||ld-||2.5||.so python
> _dl_fini|
> |||000000000002aec0 ||12||24.0000||libc-||2.5||.so python
> msort_with_tmp|
> |||0000000000004480||25||50.0000||_xslib.so python
> init_xslib|
> |0000000000000000||415746||22.5841||libpython2.||4||.so.||1.0||python
> /usr/lib/libpython2.||4||.so.||1.0|
> |||0000000000000000||415746||100.000||libpython2.||4||.so.||1.0||python
> /usr/lib/libpython2.||4||.so.||1.0||[self]|
> |...|
> |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
> |ffff82c480170470 ||36||0.1587||xen-syms qemu-dm
> send_IPI_mask_flat|
> |||ffff82c480170470 ||36||100.000||xen-syms qemu-dm
> send_IPI_mask_flat [self]|
> |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
> |ffff82c480120d40 ||33||0.1455||xen-syms qemu-dm
> cpumask_raise_softirq|
> |||ffff82c480120d40 ||33||100.000||xen-syms qemu-dm
> cpumask_raise_softirq [self] |
>
>
>
> This quote from
> http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2012-01/msg01721.htmlmay
> be useful:
> "
>
> A few comments from my tests with oprofile 0.9.6 in userspace:
>
> - to obtain callgraphs of the xen code, you need to enable
> theCONFIG_FRAME_POINTER flag during compilation of the xen binary,
> eg.using "make" with "frame_pointer=y".- if the oprofiled daemon is
> running in a 32-bit guest, it needs toreceive the xen-range in
> 32-bits, eg.
> --xen-image=/boot/xen-syms-4.1.1--xen-range=80100000,801fe5ee
> "
>
> > h). There are some counters in the hypervisor for the oprofile statistics, like
> > lost samples, etc. I does not look like they are exported/printed anywhere. Perhaps
> > an 'register_keyhandler' should be written to dump those (and also which domains
> > are profiled).
>
> I see some lost sample information when I run 'opcontrol --start
> --verbose=all', 'opcontrol --deinit' and look at oprofiled.log, are
> these the counters you are looking for?
No. I was thinking
44 static u64 total_samples;
45 static u64 invalid_buffer_samples;
46 static u64 corrupted_buffer_samples;
47 static u64 lost_samples;
48 static u64 active_samples;
49 static u64 passive_samples;
50 static u64 idle_samples;
51 static u64 others_samples;
in common/xenoprof.c
> # cat /var/lib/oprofile/samples/oprofiled.log
> oprofiled started Tue Jan 15 16:02:00 2013
> kernel pointer size: 4
> Tue Jan 15 16:04:34 2013
> -- OProfile Statistics --
> Nr. sample dumps: 4
> Nr. non-backtrace samples: 25508
> Nr. kernel samples: 14344
> Nr. lost samples (no kernel/user): 0
> Nr. lost kernel samples: 0
> Nr. incomplete code structs: 0
> Nr. samples lost due to sample file open failure: 4569
> Nr. samples lost due to no permanent mapping: 78
> Nr. event lost due to buffer overflow: 0
> Nr. samples lost due to no mapping: 20
> Nr. backtraces skipped due to no file mapping: 0
> Nr. samples lost due to no mm: 4727
> ---- Statistics for cpu : 3
> Nr. samples lost cpu buffer overflow: 0
> Nr. samples received: 11734
> Nr. backtrace aborted: 0
> Nr. samples lost invalid pc: 0
> ...
>
>
> > i). opreports often tells me
> > warning: /domain1-apps could not be found.
> > warning: /domain1-modules could not be found.
> > warning: /domain1-xen-unknown could not be found.
> > warning: /domain2-apps could not be found.
> > warning: /domain2-modules could not be found.
> > warning: /domain2-xen-unknown could not be found.
> > warning: /domain3-apps could not be found.
> > warning: /domain3-modules could not be found.
> > warning: /domain3-xen-unknown could not be found.
> > warning: /vmlinux-unknown could not be found.
> > warning: /xen-unknown could not be found.
>
> These warnings remind me of what I was receiving for the dom0 kernel
> modules, I fixed them by using -p for the modules in opreport:
> # opreport -l -p/usr/lib/debug/lib/modules/`uname -r`
> I guess opreport may be in need of this parameter pointing to the
> guest kernel symbols.
OK. I will try that out.
>
> >And it occurs to me it could be possible be to make some inroads on making
> >performance monitoring easier:
> >
> > 1). fix the glaring omissions in oprofile for the new CPUs
> > 2). Add a register keyhandle to get some debug info.
> > 3). piggyback on oprofile hypercalls and insert some bridge in perf (lots
> > of handwaving here). Or perhaps emulate in the Linux kernel the
> > wmsrs (so xen_safe_wrmsrs) and have the pvops kernel based on the MSRs
> > make the hypercalls to setup the buffers, etc.
> >
> > 3a). new hypercalls? intercept rdmsr/wrmsrs and stuff the right data
> > in the initial domain? Other thoughts?
> >
> > 4). Extend perf to have '--xen' so it can also look at the xen-hypervisor
> > ELF file.
>
> 5) live event reports from xenoprof/opreport, ala perf top.
> 6) ports of oprofile kernel modules for other oses (bsd, windows,
> mirage), so that these oses can be used as active participants.
Great!Thank you for adding those in.
>
> cheers,
> Marcus
>
>
>
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* Re: Xen, oprofile, perf, PEBS, event counters, PVHVM, PV
2013-01-16 4:47 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
@ 2013-01-16 16:18 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2013-01-16 17:40 ` Suravee Suthikulpanit
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Boris Ostrovsky @ 2013-01-16 16:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
Cc: Marcus Granado, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, msw@amazon.com,
andrew.thomas@oracle.com, jun.nakajima@intel.com,
kurt.hackel@oracle.com, jacob.shin@amd.com, Marcus Granado,
Marcos.Matsunaga@oracle.com, JBeulich@suse.com,
Sherry.Hurwitz@amd.com, Suravee Suthikulpanit
On 01/15/2013 11:47 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 05:11:01PM +0000, Marcus Granado wrote:
>> On 14/01/13 20:45, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
>>> And it occurs to me it could be possible be to make some inroads on making
>>> performance monitoring easier:
>>>
>>> 1). fix the glaring omissions in oprofile for the new CPUs
>>> 2). Add a register keyhandle to get some debug info.
>>> 3). piggyback on oprofile hypercalls and insert some bridge in perf (lots
>>> of handwaving here). Or perhaps emulate in the Linux kernel the
>>> wmsrs (so xen_safe_wrmsrs) and have the pvops kernel based on the MSRs
>>> make the hypercalls to setup the buffers, etc.
>>>
>>> 3a). new hypercalls? intercept rdmsr/wrmsrs and stuff the right data
>>> in the initial domain? Other thoughts?
>>>
>>> 4). Extend perf to have '--xen' so it can also look at the xen-hypervisor
>>> ELF file.
>>
>> 5) live event reports from xenoprof/opreport, ala perf top.
>> 6) ports of oprofile kernel modules for other oses (bsd, windows,
>> mirage), so that these oses can be used as active participants.
(+ Suravee)
What is the status of oprofile development in general (on Linux)? I
don't see a whole lot of activity there, it appears to be more in
maintenance mode.
I realize that doing (4) may end up being a lot of work but given much
more active perf development it seems to me that this should be the
preferred route.
-boris
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Xen, oprofile, perf, PEBS, event counters, PVHVM, PV
2013-01-16 16:18 ` Boris Ostrovsky
@ 2013-01-16 17:40 ` Suravee Suthikulpanit
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Suravee Suthikulpanit @ 2013-01-16 17:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Boris Ostrovsky
Cc: Marcus Granado, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, msw@amazon.com,
andrew.thomas@oracle.com, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk,
jun.nakajima@intel.com, kurt.hackel@oracle.com,
jacob.shin@amd.com, Marcus Granado, Marcos.Matsunaga@oracle.com,
JBeulich@suse.com, Sherry.Hurwitz@amd.com
On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 11:18 -0500, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
> On 01/15/2013 11:47 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 05:11:01PM +0000, Marcus Granado wrote:
> >> On 14/01/13 20:45, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
>
> >>> And it occurs to me it could be possible be to make some inroads on making
> >>> performance monitoring easier:
> >>>
> >>> 1). fix the glaring omissions in oprofile for the new CPUs
> >>> 2). Add a register keyhandle to get some debug info.
> >>> 3). piggyback on oprofile hypercalls and insert some bridge in perf (lots
> >>> of handwaving here). Or perhaps emulate in the Linux kernel the
> >>> wmsrs (so xen_safe_wrmsrs) and have the pvops kernel based on the MSRs
> >>> make the hypercalls to setup the buffers, etc.
> >>>
> >>> 3a). new hypercalls? intercept rdmsr/wrmsrs and stuff the right data
> >>> in the initial domain? Other thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> 4). Extend perf to have '--xen' so it can also look at the xen-hypervisor
> >>> ELF file.
> >>
> >> 5) live event reports from xenoprof/opreport, ala perf top.
> >> 6) ports of oprofile kernel modules for other oses (bsd, windows,
> >> mirage), so that these oses can be used as active participants.
>
> (+ Suravee)
>
> What is the status of oprofile development in general (on Linux)? I
> don't see a whole lot of activity there, it appears to be more in
> maintenance mode.
Linux OProfile driver is in maintenance mode. However, the user-space tools have been converted to use
PERF syscalls interface which allows it to support per-process (non-root) profiling (similar to PERF default mode).
One advantage of OProfile is the large database of performance counters on various platforms.
Suravee
> I realize that doing (4) may end up being a lot of work but given much
> more active perf development it seems to me that this should be the
> preferred route.
> -boris
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Xen, oprofile, perf, PEBS, event counters, PVHVM, PV
2013-01-15 17:11 ` Marcus Granado
2013-01-16 4:47 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
@ 2013-01-18 15:43 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk @ 2013-01-18 15:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marcus Granado
Cc: Marcus Granado, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, msw@amazon.com,
andrew.thomas@oracle.com, boris.ostrovsky@amd.com,
Sherry.Hurwitz@amd.com, jacob.shin@amd.com,
Marcos.Matsunaga@oracle.com, JBeulich@suse.com,
jun.nakajima@intel.com, kurt.hackel@oracle.com
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 05:11:01PM +0000, Marcus Granado wrote:
> On 14/01/13 20:45, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> >a). 32/64 compat is missing backtrace support. If you run with a 32-bit dom0
> > and try to set the backtrace, the hypervisor sets is as -some-huge-number.
> > It might be there are some other hypercalls that need some compat tweaks.
>
> It's not clear to me if it is the same issue, but there was some
> work to make xenoprof's callgraph work with 32-bit domains on a
> 64-bit xen here:
> http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2012-01/msg01721.html
> The patch should be nowin xen but it requires a one-linechange in
> the 32-bit dom0 kernel matching this one in xen:
> http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2012-01/txt4qZ7uGGPTc.txt
>
> >b). 32-bit dom0 oprofile toolstack truncates the EIP of 64-bit guests
> > (or hypervisor). I am not really sure how to solve that except just
> > not run 64-bit guests/hypervisor with a 32-bit dom0. Or make
> > oprofile and its tools capable of doing 64-bit architecture.
> > The vice-versa condition does not exist - so I can profile 32-bit
> > guests using a 64-bit dom0.
> Afaics, the 32-bit dom0 oprofile.ko module receives the 64-bit eips;
> the XENOPROF_ESCAPE_CODE comparison is made as ULL in the kernel and
> seems to work. This could be happening maybe in either opcontrol,
> oprofiled or opreport, but with the patches above I obtained the
> following result in an idle 32-bit dom0, which seems to display the
> correct 64-bit memory location information for hypervisor functions:
>
>
> |# opreport -lwc #(functions calling other functions):|
> |CPU: Core ||2||, speed ||2493.77||MHz (estimated)|
> |Counted CPU_CLK_UNHALTED events (Clock cycles when not halted) with
> a unit mask of ||0x00||(Unhalted core cycles) count ||1000000|
> |vma samples % image name app name symbol name|
> |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
> |||00000000000b9610 ||1||2.0000||libc-||2.5||.so python
> getaddrinfo|
> |||000000000000fad0 ||1||2.0000||libpthread-||2.5||.so python
> _fini|
> |||000000000000e790 ||3||6.0000||ld-||2.5||.so python
> _dl_fini|
> |||000000000002aec0 ||12||24.0000||libc-||2.5||.so python
> msort_with_tmp|
> |||0000000000004480||25||50.0000||_xslib.so python
> init_xslib|
> |0000000000000000||415746||22.5841||libpython2.||4||.so.||1.0||python
> /usr/lib/libpython2.||4||.so.||1.0|
> |||0000000000000000||415746||100.000||libpython2.||4||.so.||1.0||python
> /usr/lib/libpython2.||4||.so.||1.0||[self]|
> |...|
> |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
> |ffff82c480170470 ||36||0.1587||xen-syms qemu-dm
> send_IPI_mask_flat|
> |||ffff82c480170470 ||36||100.000||xen-syms qemu-dm
> send_IPI_mask_flat [self]|
> |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
> |ffff82c480120d40 ||33||0.1455||xen-syms qemu-dm
> cpumask_raise_softirq|
> |||ffff82c480120d40 ||33||100.000||xen-syms qemu-dm
> cpumask_raise_softirq [self] |
>
>
>
> This quote from
> http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2012-01/msg01721.htmlmay
> be useful:
> "
>
> A few comments from my tests with oprofile 0.9.6 in userspace:
>
> - to obtain callgraphs of the xen code, you need to enable
> theCONFIG_FRAME_POINTER flag during compilation of the xen binary,
> eg.using "make" with "frame_pointer=y".- if the oprofiled daemon is
> running in a 32-bit guest, it needs toreceive the xen-range in
> 32-bits, eg.
> --xen-image=/boot/xen-syms-4.1.1--xen-range=80100000,801fe5ee
> "
>
> > h). There are some counters in the hypervisor for the oprofile statistics, like
> > lost samples, etc. I does not look like they are exported/printed anywhere. Perhaps
> > an 'register_keyhandler' should be written to dump those (and also which domains
> > are profiled).
>
> I see some lost sample information when I run 'opcontrol --start
> --verbose=all', 'opcontrol --deinit' and look at oprofiled.log, are
> these the counters you are looking for?
> # cat /var/lib/oprofile/samples/oprofiled.log
> oprofiled started Tue Jan 15 16:02:00 2013
> kernel pointer size: 4
> Tue Jan 15 16:04:34 2013
> -- OProfile Statistics --
> Nr. sample dumps: 4
> Nr. non-backtrace samples: 25508
> Nr. kernel samples: 14344
> Nr. lost samples (no kernel/user): 0
> Nr. lost kernel samples: 0
> Nr. incomplete code structs: 0
> Nr. samples lost due to sample file open failure: 4569
> Nr. samples lost due to no permanent mapping: 78
> Nr. event lost due to buffer overflow: 0
> Nr. samples lost due to no mapping: 20
> Nr. backtraces skipped due to no file mapping: 0
> Nr. samples lost due to no mm: 4727
> ---- Statistics for cpu : 3
> Nr. samples lost cpu buffer overflow: 0
> Nr. samples received: 11734
> Nr. backtrace aborted: 0
> Nr. samples lost invalid pc: 0
> ...
>
>
> > i). opreports often tells me
> > warning: /domain1-apps could not be found.
> > warning: /domain1-modules could not be found.
> > warning: /domain1-xen-unknown could not be found.
> > warning: /domain2-apps could not be found.
> > warning: /domain2-modules could not be found.
> > warning: /domain2-xen-unknown could not be found.
> > warning: /domain3-apps could not be found.
> > warning: /domain3-modules could not be found.
> > warning: /domain3-xen-unknown could not be found.
> > warning: /vmlinux-unknown could not be found.
> > warning: /xen-unknown could not be found.
>
> These warnings remind me of what I was receiving for the dom0 kernel
> modules, I fixed them by using -p for the modules in opreport:
> # opreport -l -p/usr/lib/debug/lib/modules/`uname -r`
> I guess opreport may be in need of this parameter pointing to the
> guest kernel symbols.
>
> >And it occurs to me it could be possible be to make some inroads on making
> >performance monitoring easier:
> >
> > 1). fix the glaring omissions in oprofile for the new CPUs
> > 2). Add a register keyhandle to get some debug info.
> > 3). piggyback on oprofile hypercalls and insert some bridge in perf (lots
> > of handwaving here). Or perhaps emulate in the Linux kernel the
> > wmsrs (so xen_safe_wrmsrs) and have the pvops kernel based on the MSRs
> > make the hypercalls to setup the buffers, etc.
> >
> > 3a). new hypercalls? intercept rdmsr/wrmsrs and stuff the right data
> > in the initial domain? Other thoughts?
> >
> > 4). Extend perf to have '--xen' so it can also look at the xen-hypervisor
> > ELF file.
>
> 5) live event reports from xenoprof/opreport, ala perf top.
Is that in terms of a bridge code or just actually making 'perf' use the
proper hypercalls?
> 6) ports of oprofile kernel modules for other oses (bsd, windows,
> mirage), so that these oses can be used as active participants.
Based on the fact that oprofile is in maintaince mode I don't think
the other 6) makes much sense.
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