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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Konrad Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] perf: Check all MSRs before passing hw check
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:53:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130318105320.GA28486@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5146EF30.2040306@eu.citrix.com>


* George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote:

> On 18/03/13 08:42, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >* George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
> >
> >>check_hw_exists has a number of checks which go to two exit paths:
> >>msr_fail and bios_fail.  Checks classified as msr_fail will cause
> >>check_hw_exists() to return false, causing the PMU not to be used;
> >>bios_fail checks will only cause a warning to be printed, but will
> >>return true.
> >>
> >>The problem is that if there are both msr failures and bios failures,
> >>and the routine hits a bios_fail check first, it will exit early and
> >>return true, not finishing the rest of the msr checks.  If those msrs
> >>are in fact broken, it will cause them to be used erroneously.
> >>
> >>This changset causes check_hw_exists() to go through all of the msr
> >>checks, failing and returning false if any of them fail.
> >>
> >>This problem affects kernels as far back as 3.2, and should thus be
> >>considered for backport.
> >>
> >>Signed-off-by: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
> >>CC: Konrad Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
> >>CC: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> >>CC: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
> >>CC: x86@kernel.org
> >>---
> >>  arch/x86/kernel/cpu/perf_event.c |   20 ++++++++++----------
> >>  1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
> >What is missing is a description of what specific platform this gets
> >triggered on and exactly why. Is some hw feature emulation missing that
> >causes the check to fail?
> 
> Remember, there are two checks failing: the second one is supposed
> to fail and disable the PMU entirely, but it's not getting there
> because when the first one fails, it skips the rest but returns
> "success" anyway.
> 
> The warning on the first check is as follows:
> 
> [    8.131985] Performance Events: Broken BIOS detected, complain to
> your hardware vendor.^M
> [    8.139997] [Firmware Bug]: the BIOS has corrupted hw-PMU
> resources (MSR c0010000 is 530076)^M
> 
> c0010000 is the AMD  MSR_K7_EVNTSEL0; the check it's failing is:
>   if (val & ARCH_PERFMON_EVENTSEL_ENABLE)
> 
> So it discovers that one of the performance counters is already
> enabled -- worth a warning, but by itself not worth disabling the
> PMU.  This is most likely to be exactly what the warning message
> says: a buggy BIOS that enables perfcounters enabled for some
> reason.
> 
> The second check is supposed to detect that the PMU is actually not
> usable -- in my case because it's running virtualized (under Xen).

I got the logic from your original description - what I wanted was for the 
specific messages to be included in the patch changelog, plus a 
description of what misbehaved before the patch and what behaves better 
after the patch - on your specific system.

In other words, please use the customary changelog style we use in the 
kernel:

  " Current code does (A), this has a problem when (B).
    We can improve this doing (C), because (D)."

Thanks,

        Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-18 10:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-15 12:20 [PATCH] perf: Check all MSRs before passing hw check George Dunlap
2013-03-15 12:50 ` Jan Beulich
2013-03-15 14:43   ` George Dunlap
2013-03-15 15:25     ` Jan Beulich
2013-03-18  8:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-03-18 10:40   ` George Dunlap
2013-03-18 10:53     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-03-18 10:55       ` George Dunlap

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