From: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>
To: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: jeremy@goop.org, gregkh@suse.de, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC V9 0/19] Paravirtualized ticket spinlocks
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 13:37:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130626113744.GA6300@hawk.usersys.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51CAAA26.4090204@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 02:15:26PM +0530, Raghavendra K T wrote:
> On 06/25/2013 08:20 PM, Andrew Theurer wrote:
> >On Sun, 2013-06-02 at 00:51 +0530, Raghavendra K T wrote:
> >>This series replaces the existing paravirtualized spinlock mechanism
> >>with a paravirtualized ticketlock mechanism. The series provides
> >>implementation for both Xen and KVM.
> >>
> >>Changes in V9:
> >>- Changed spin_threshold to 32k to avoid excess halt exits that are
> >> causing undercommit degradation (after PLE handler improvement).
> >>- Added kvm_irq_delivery_to_apic (suggested by Gleb)
> >>- Optimized halt exit path to use PLE handler
> >>
> >>V8 of PVspinlock was posted last year. After Avi's suggestions to look
> >>at PLE handler's improvements, various optimizations in PLE handling
> >>have been tried.
> >
> >Sorry for not posting this sooner. I have tested the v9 pv-ticketlock
> >patches in 1x and 2x over-commit with 10-vcpu and 20-vcpu VMs. I have
> >tested these patches with and without PLE, as PLE is still not scalable
> >with large VMs.
> >
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Thanks for testing.
>
> >System: x3850X5, 40 cores, 80 threads
> >
> >
> >1x over-commit with 10-vCPU VMs (8 VMs) all running dbench:
> >----------------------------------------------------------
> > Total
> >Configuration Throughput(MB/s) Notes
> >
> >3.10-default-ple_on 22945 5% CPU in host kernel, 2% spin_lock in guests
> >3.10-default-ple_off 23184 5% CPU in host kernel, 2% spin_lock in guests
> >3.10-pvticket-ple_on 22895 5% CPU in host kernel, 2% spin_lock in guests
> >3.10-pvticket-ple_off 23051 5% CPU in host kernel, 2% spin_lock in guests
> >[all 1x results look good here]
>
> Yes. The 1x results look too close
>
> >
> >
> >2x over-commit with 10-vCPU VMs (16 VMs) all running dbench:
> >-----------------------------------------------------------
> > Total
> >Configuration Throughput Notes
> >
> >3.10-default-ple_on 6287 55% CPU host kernel, 17% spin_lock in guests
> >3.10-default-ple_off 1849 2% CPU in host kernel, 95% spin_lock in guests
> >3.10-pvticket-ple_on 6691 50% CPU in host kernel, 15% spin_lock in guests
> >3.10-pvticket-ple_off 16464 8% CPU in host kernel, 33% spin_lock in guests
>
> I see 6.426% improvement with ple_on
> and 161.87% improvement with ple_off. I think this is a very good sign
> for the patches
>
> >[PLE hinders pv-ticket improvements, but even with PLE off,
> > we still off from ideal throughput (somewhere >20000)]
> >
>
> Okay, The ideal throughput you are referring is getting around atleast
> 80% of 1x throughput for over-commit. Yes we are still far away from
> there.
>
> >
> >1x over-commit with 20-vCPU VMs (4 VMs) all running dbench:
> >----------------------------------------------------------
> > Total
> >Configuration Throughput Notes
> >
> >3.10-default-ple_on 22736 6% CPU in host kernel, 3% spin_lock in guests
> >3.10-default-ple_off 23377 5% CPU in host kernel, 3% spin_lock in guests
> >3.10-pvticket-ple_on 22471 6% CPU in host kernel, 3% spin_lock in guests
> >3.10-pvticket-ple_off 23445 5% CPU in host kernel, 3% spin_lock in guests
> >[1x looking fine here]
> >
>
> I see ple_off is little better here.
>
> >
> >2x over-commit with 20-vCPU VMs (8 VMs) all running dbench:
> >----------------------------------------------------------
> > Total
> >Configuration Throughput Notes
> >
> >3.10-default-ple_on 1965 70% CPU in host kernel, 34% spin_lock in guests
> >3.10-default-ple_off 226 2% CPU in host kernel, 94% spin_lock in guests
> >3.10-pvticket-ple_on 1942 70% CPU in host kernel, 35% spin_lock in guests
> >3.10-pvticket-ple_off 8003 11% CPU in host kernel, 70% spin_lock in guests
> >[quite bad all around, but pv-tickets with PLE off the best so far.
> > Still quite a bit off from ideal throughput]
>
> This is again a remarkable improvement (307%).
> This motivates me to add a patch to disable ple when pvspinlock is on.
> probably we can add a hypercall that disables ple in kvm init patch.
> but only problem I see is what if the guests are mixed.
>
> (i.e one guest has pvspinlock support but other does not. Host
> supports pv)
How about reintroducing the idea to create per-kvm ple_gap,ple_window
state. We were headed down that road when considering a dynamic window at
one point. Then you can just set a single guest's ple_gap to zero, which
would lead to PLE being disabled for that guest. We could also revisit
the dynamic window then.
drew
>
> /me thinks
>
> >
> >In summary, I would state that the pv-ticket is an overall win, but the
> >current PLE handler tends to "get in the way" on these larger guests.
> >
> >-Andrew
> >
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-06-26 11:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-01 19:21 [PATCH RFC V9 0/19] Paravirtualized ticket spinlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:21 ` [PATCH RFC V9 1/19] x86/spinlock: Replace pv spinlocks with pv ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 20:32 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2013-06-02 6:54 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:22 ` [PATCH RFC V9 2/19] x86/ticketlock: Don't inline _spin_unlock when using paravirt spinlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 15:28 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-01 19:22 ` [PATCH RFC V9 3/19] x86/ticketlock: Collapse a layer of functions Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 15:28 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-01 19:22 ` [PATCH RFC V9 4/19] xen: Defer spinlock setup until boot CPU setup Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:23 ` [PATCH RFC V9 5/19] xen/pvticketlock: Xen implementation for PV ticket locks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 16:03 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04 7:21 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:23 ` [PATCH RFC V9 6/19] xen/pvticketlocks: Add xen_nopvspin parameter to disable xen pv ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:23 ` [PATCH RFC V9 7/19] x86/pvticketlock: Use callee-save for lock_spinning Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:24 ` [PATCH RFC V9 8/19] x86/pvticketlock: When paravirtualizing ticket locks, increment by 2 Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 15:53 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-01 19:24 ` [PATCH RFC V9 9/19] Split out rate limiting from jump_label.h Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 15:56 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04 7:15 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:24 ` [PATCH RFC V9 10/19] x86/ticketlock: Add slowpath logic Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:24 ` [PATCH RFC V9 11/19] xen/pvticketlock: Allow interrupts to be enabled while blocking Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` [PATCH RFC V9 12/19] xen: Enable PV ticketlocks on HVM Xen Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 15:57 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04 7:16 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-04 14:44 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04 15:00 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` [PATCH RFC V9 13/19] kvm hypervisor : Add a hypercall to KVM hypervisor to support pv-ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` [PATCH RFC V9 14/19] kvm : Fold pv_unhalt flag into GET_MP_STATE ioctl to aid migration Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` [PATCH RFC V9 15/19] kvm guest : Add configuration support to enable debug information for KVM Guests Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` [PATCH RFC V9 16/19] kvm : Paravirtual ticketlocks support for linux guests running on KVM hypervisor Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 16:00 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04 7:19 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:26 ` [PATCH RFC V9 17/19] kvm hypervisor : Simplify kvm_for_each_vcpu with kvm_irq_delivery_to_apic Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:26 ` [PATCH RFC V9 18/19] Documentation/kvm : Add documentation on Hypercalls and features used for PV spinlock Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 16:04 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04 7:22 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:26 ` [PATCH RFC V9 19/19] kvm hypervisor: Add directed yield in vcpu block path Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 16:05 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04 7:28 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-02 8:07 ` [PATCH RFC V9 0/19] Paravirtualized ticket spinlocks Gleb Natapov
2013-06-02 16:20 ` Jiannan Ouyang
2013-06-03 1:40 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 6:21 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-07 6:15 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-07 13:29 ` Andrew Theurer
2013-06-07 23:41 ` Jiannan Ouyang
2013-06-25 14:50 ` Andrew Theurer
2013-06-26 8:45 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-26 11:37 ` Andrew Jones [this message]
2013-06-26 12:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-26 13:40 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-26 14:39 ` Chegu Vinod
2013-06-26 15:37 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-26 16:11 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-26 17:54 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-09 9:11 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-10 10:33 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-10 10:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-10 10:47 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-10 11:28 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-10 11:29 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-10 11:40 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-10 15:03 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-07-10 15:16 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-11 0:12 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-07-10 11:24 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-10 11:41 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-10 11:50 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-11 9:13 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-11 9:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-11 10:10 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-11 10:11 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-11 10:53 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-11 10:56 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-11 11:14 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-26 14:13 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-26 15:56 ` Andrew Theurer
2013-07-01 9:30 ` Raghavendra K T
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-06-01 8:21 Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:21 ` Raghavendra KT
2013-06-01 20:14 ` Andi Kleen
2013-06-01 20:28 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2013-06-01 20:46 ` Andi Kleen
2013-06-04 10:58 ` Raghavendra K T
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