From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Brandon Philips <brandon@ifup.org>
Subject: Re: is kexec on Xen domU possible?
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 11:33:15 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130722183315.GA29273@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51ED78EE.9020903@zytor.com>
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:24:46AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 07/22/2013 10:20 AM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Also, in any virtualized environment the hypervisor can do a better job
> >>> for things like kdump, simply because it can provide two things that are
> >>> otherwise hard to do:
> >>>
> >>> 1. a known-good system state;
> >>> 2. a known-clean kdump image.
> >>>
> >>> As such, I do encourage the virtualization people to (also) develop
> >>> hypervisor-*aware* solutions for these kinds of things.
> >>
> >> In general I agree but if you could not change hypervisor
> >> and/or dom0 (e.g. you are using cloud providers which are
> >> stick to old versions of Xen) then you have no choice.
> >
> > Which tends to be where kexec on panic comes in most cases. Getting
> > platform vendors to do something sane tends to be a multi-year political
> > effort of dubious worth while just solving the problem locally actually
> > gets the problem solved for those who care.
> >
>
> It should not be a "one or the other" issue.
I don't care about kdump, I care about kexec on domU for people who are
running on cloud providers with old versions of Xen so that they can
control what kernel they can boot, when they want to boot it. If kdump
works as well, that's just a bonus, but it's down on the list of things
for me to be concerned about.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-22 18:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-19 2:06 is kexec on Xen domU possible? Greg KH
2013-07-19 13:18 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-07-19 13:54 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-07-19 19:04 ` Olaf Hering
2013-07-19 14:58 ` Brandon Philips
2013-07-19 18:19 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-07-19 15:12 ` Greg KH
2013-07-19 18:32 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-07-19 19:14 ` Greg KH
2013-07-19 20:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-22 17:03 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-07-22 17:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-07-22 18:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-22 18:33 ` Greg KH [this message]
2013-07-22 18:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-24 0:22 ` [Xen-devel] " Matt Wilson
2013-07-24 0:40 ` Greg KH
2013-07-24 7:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
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