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From: Mukesh Rathor <mukesh.rathor@oracle.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>, keir.xen@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 0 PATCH 3/3] PVH dom0: construct_dom0 changes
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 17:58:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131007175852.6583ea0d@mantra.us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <524E820002000078000F8C16@nat28.tlf.novell.com>

On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 07:53:20 +0100
"Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com> wrote:

> >>> On 03.10.13 at 02:53, Mukesh Rathor <mukesh.rathor@oracle.com>
> >>> wrote:
> > On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 07:54:39 +0100
> > "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> >>> On 27.09.13 at 02:17, Mukesh Rathor <mukesh.rathor@oracle.com>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:02:41 +0100 "Jan Beulich"
> >> > <JBeulich@suse.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>> On 25.09.13 at 23:03, Mukesh Rathor
> >> >> >>> <mukesh.rathor@oracle.com> wrote:
> >> >> > +/*
> >> >> > + * Set the 1:1 map for all non-RAM regions for dom 0. Thus,
> >> >> > dom0 will have
> >> >> > + * the entire io region mapped in the EPT/NPT.
> >> >> > + *
> >> >> > + * PVH FIXME: The following doesn't map MMIO ranges when they
> >> >> > sit above the
> >> >> > + *            highest E820 covered address.
> >> >> 
> >> >> This absolutely needs fixing before this can go in.
> >> > 
> >> > Any suggestions on how to fix it? Mapping all the way to end
> >> > could result in a huge hap table. 
> >> 
> >> You'll probably need a call down from Dom0 telling you where it
> >> finds/puts MMIO resources. Or perhaps that could be mapped
> >> in on demand from the EPT fault handler (since these regions
> >> shouldn't be subject to DMA, and hence IOMMU faults shouldn't
> >> occur - perhaps that's even a reason to not share page tables
> >> at least in dom0-strict mode)?
> > 
> > Thinking about mapping in on demand from the EPT fault handler, how
> > would I know if the access beyond last e820 entry is genuine and
> > not a faulty pte in a buggy guest? Could I consult the mmconfig
> > table (?) or the ACPI table in xen? Any pointers would be
> > helpful... my knowledge runs out quickly here.
> 
> You'd have to inspect all the BARs of the devices the domain owns.
> Hence the thought of having Dom0 tell you about those resource
> assignments.
> 
> > FWIW, at present pv-ops linux doesn't allow any mmio access beyond
> > the last e820 entry. So, we'd need a fix there too. In my very orig
> > patch, I was updating all IO mappings on demand by putting hook
> > in linux native_pte_update if it was _PAGE_BIT_IOMAP. Another 
> > possibility would be do that for any mappings above the last
> > e820 entry. What do you think?
> 
> Special casing IOMAP page table creation might be an option, but
> has the downside of allowing kernel bugs to propagate into Xen's
> view of the world.
> 
> > For testing purposes, do you have reference for hardware? I don't
> > see any here with such configuration.
> 
> Nothing specific, but I know that SR-IOV virtual functions easily
> cause kernels to run out of MMIO space below 4G (namely when
> the hole is only around 1Gb or even less), and Intel must have
> knowledge of graphics cards having so huge a frame buffer that
> it can only be mapped above 4G.

In that case, I don't see why this is a MUST for the patch. Combined
with the fact that at present pv-ops doesn't even allow for mapping
above the last e820 entry, I think this can be left FIXME/bug-fix for 
near future that can be done relatively quickly by an expert in that
area if learning that takes me a long time.

thanks
Mukesh

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-08  0:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-25 21:03 [RFC 0 PATCH 0/3]: PVH dom0 construction Mukesh Rathor
2013-09-25 21:03 ` [RFC 0 PATCH 1/3] PVH dom0: create domctl_memory_mapping() function Mukesh Rathor
2013-09-26  7:03   ` Jan Beulich
2013-09-25 21:03 ` [RFC 0 PATCH 2/3] PVH dom0: move some pv specific code to static functions Mukesh Rathor
2013-09-26  7:21   ` Jan Beulich
2013-09-26 23:32     ` Mukesh Rathor
2013-09-25 21:03 ` [RFC 0 PATCH 3/3] PVH dom0: construct_dom0 changes Mukesh Rathor
2013-09-26  8:02   ` Jan Beulich
2013-09-27  0:17     ` Mukesh Rathor
2013-09-27  6:54       ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-03  0:53         ` Mukesh Rathor
2013-10-04  6:53           ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-04 13:35             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-04 14:05               ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-04 16:02                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-04 16:07                   ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-04 20:59                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-05  1:06                       ` Mukesh Rathor
2013-10-07  7:12                         ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-08  0:58             ` Mukesh Rathor [this message]
2013-10-08  7:51               ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-08  8:03                 ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-08  9:39                   ` George Dunlap
2013-10-08  9:57                     ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-08 10:01                       ` George Dunlap
2013-10-08 10:19                         ` Lars Kurth
2013-10-08 12:30                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-09 13:02                       ` George Dunlap
2013-10-09 13:13                         ` Andrew Cooper
2013-10-09 13:16                           ` George Dunlap
2013-10-09 14:37                             ` Andrew Cooper
2013-10-09 17:50                       ` Tim Deegan
2013-10-09 22:31                         ` Mukesh Rathor
2013-09-27  1:55     ` Mukesh Rathor
2013-09-27  7:01       ` Jan Beulich
2013-09-27 23:03         ` Mukesh Rathor
2013-09-30  6:56           ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-08  0:52             ` Mukesh Rathor
2013-10-08  7:43               ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-09 21:59                 ` Mukesh Rathor

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