From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: Steven Noonan <snoonan@amazon.com>,
Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
Matt Wilson <msw@linux.com>,
xen-devel@lists.xen.org,
Sander Eikelenboom <linux@eikelenboom.it>,
astarta@rat.ru, David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>,
Matt Wilson <msw@amazon.com>
Subject: Re: [BUG] Xen vm kernel crash in get_free_entries.
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:56:14 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131112155614.GA11354@phenom.dumpdata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1383832023.32399.39.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com>
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 01:47:03PM +0000, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-11-07 at 09:20 +0400, Astarta wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Let me bring some new life to this discussion.
> >
> > I've investigated a bit and found another way to make kernels starting
> > from 3.8.x to boot on the VMs with platform device_id 0002.
> > Reverting of xen-grant-table-correctly-initialize-grant-table-version-1
> > patch is not necessary.
> >
> > We can simply modify struct pci_device_id platform_pci_tbl[] (in
> > drivers/xen/platform-pci.c) to respect 0002 and 0000 device ids.
> > That makes the kernel (3.8.x and 3.11.6) to boot correctly, disks and
> > network are also recognized.
>
> I think this is just working around the problem, by avoiding the
> situation where the error occurs. You could just as well switch to
> platform device id < 2.
I am bit late to this discussion - but shouldn't there be something
in the kernel to deal with this?
>
> > IMO, there is no need to add new fields with device id 0002 and device
> > id 0000 to platform_pci_tbl[] , we can modify the existing one to use
> > PCI_ANY_ID instead of PCI_DEVICE_ID_XEN_PLATFORM (which is 0001), so if
> > we have PCI_VENDOR_ID_XEN there is no need to pay attention on device id.
>
> That omits the possibility that a future rev might differ in some
> meaningful way though.
>
> Ian.
>
> >
> > So the patch is more than simple. See attached. I've tested the resulted
> > kernel in my environment (with device ids 0002, 0001 and 0000) and it
> > seems to work well.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Marina
> >
> > On 10/21/2013 02:55 PM, Matt Wilson wrote:
> > > On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 01:58:50PM +0200, Sander Eikelenboom wrote:
> > >> Saturday, October 19, 2013, 1:03:17 PM, you wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 14:51 +0400, Astarta wrote:
> > >>>> On 10/19/2013 03:14 AM, Sander Eikelenboom wrote:
> > >>>>> makes a HVM guest (qemu-xen-traditional) with xen_platform_pci=0 boot again using xl, haven't tested it with xend.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> Great catch!
> > >>>> I also confirm that 3.11.5 kernel boots just fine after reverting of
> > >>>> 'correctly initialize grant table version 1' patch.
> > >>> This could just be down to that patch adding some BUG_ONs to catch bad
> > >>> things going on, e.g. the one in gnttab_expand which I think is being
> > >>> hit here.
> > >>> I have a feeling that it is still wrong (but just more benign) to be
> > >>> hitting that call chain in a configuration where there is no platform
> > >>> device driver running. IOW reverting that patch removes the obvious
> > >>> symptom (blowing up) but not the root cause, i.e. the patch is doing its
> > >>> job.
> > >> That was my suspicion too, but at least it seems like some starting point
> > >> of further debugging.
> > >> (and indication of the kernels affected since this commit went to stable as well)
> > >>
> > >> Since i was still seeing the "Booting PV enabled guest on Xen HVM" is was wondering
> > >> what is supposed to happen when there are some combinations ....
> > > This is the enlightenment code noticing that it's running in a HVM
> > > guest under Xen via the hypervisor cpuid leaf (cpuid leaf
> > > 0x40000000).
> > >
> > >> xen HVM xen_platform_pci=0 + guest kernel without PV guest support and without xen pv drivers (net + block)
> > > This should work.
> > >
> > >> xen HVM xen_platform_pci=0 + guest kernel with PV guest support but without xen pv drivers (net + block)
> > > This should work.
> > >
> > >> xen HVM xen_platform_pci=0 + guest kernel with PV guest support and with xen pv drivers (net + block)
> > >> -- This is the configuration that hits the bug described here.
> > > I don't see how this can be expected to work - the PV net and block
> > > devices need the facilities that are initialized by the Xen platform
> > > PCI device to operate. Of course it shouldn't crash either, it should
> > > just use emulated devices instead of xen-netfront/xen-blkfront.
> > >
> > >> xen HVM xen_platform_pci=1 + guest kernel without PV guest support and without xen pv drivers (net + block)
> > > This should work.
> > >
> > >> xen HVM xen_platform_pci=1 + guest kernel with PV guest support and without xen pv drivers (net + block)
> > > This should work.
> > >
> > >> xen HVM xen_platform_pci=1 + guest kernel with PV guest support and with xen pv drivers (net + block)
> > > This should work.
> > >
> > >> Booting a guest kernel with PV support as HVM but without using PV doesn't seem possible with a .cfg option ?
> > >> (yes it's a hypothetical option (performance wise), as is running with a guest kernel which supports PV drivers,
> > >> but not using them with xen_platform_pci=0 .. but it is useful for debugging )
> > > AFAICT the expected behavior would be to for the guest kernel to use
> > > basic enlightenment for CPU operations (hotplug, timers) but no PV IO
> > > support (net + block). But perhaps I'm missing something since you
> > > theoretically don't need the PCI device if you have event channel
> > > callback support in the guest kernel and sufficient support in the
> > > hypervisor.
> > >
> > > --msw
> >
> >
>
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-12 15:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-16 6:28 [BUG] Xen vm kernel crash in get_free_entries Astarta
2013-10-16 13:29 ` David Vrabel
2013-10-16 14:17 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2013-10-17 8:55 ` Astarta
2013-10-17 19:04 ` Astarta
2013-10-17 19:28 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2013-10-18 9:31 ` David Vrabel
2013-10-18 9:46 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-18 10:31 ` Astarta
2013-10-18 11:34 ` Paul Durrant
2013-10-18 11:06 ` Paul Durrant
2013-10-18 11:08 ` Astarta
2013-10-18 11:27 ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-10-18 11:33 ` Paul Durrant
2013-10-18 14:15 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2013-10-18 14:19 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-18 14:27 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2013-10-18 23:14 ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-10-19 10:51 ` Astarta
2013-10-19 11:03 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-19 11:58 ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-10-21 10:55 ` Matt Wilson
2013-11-07 5:20 ` Astarta
2013-11-07 13:47 ` Ian Campbell
2013-11-12 15:56 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2013-11-13 9:40 ` Ian Campbell
2013-11-13 12:39 ` Ian Campbell
2013-11-26 20:08 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-11-26 22:00 ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-11-26 22:15 ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-11-26 22:55 ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-11-26 23:05 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-11-26 23:14 ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-11-27 9:36 ` Ian Campbell
2013-11-27 14:24 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-11-27 15:58 ` Ian Campbell
2013-11-27 16:40 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-11-28 14:56 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-29 3:26 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-11-29 11:54 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-12-09 12:57 ` Sander Eikelenboom
2013-12-10 15:07 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-21 10:29 ` Matt Wilson
2013-10-21 10:46 ` David Vrabel
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