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From: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: hangaohuai@huawei.com, ian.campbell@citrix.com,
	stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com, shannon.zhao@linaro.org,
	andrew@fubar.geek.nz, peter.huangpeng@huawei.com,
	julien.grall@citrix.com, stefano.stabellini@citrix.com,
	david.vrabel@citrix.com, zhaoshenglong@huawei.com,
	boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, xen-devel@lists.xen.org,
	parth.dixit@linaro.org, roger.pau@citrix.com
Subject: Re: Design doc of adding ACPI support for arm64 on Xen - version 5
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:18:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150902091853.GA18705@cbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55E6C45002000078000D7CCA@prv-mh.provo.novell.com>

Hi Jan,

On Wed, Sep 02, 2015 at 02:41:36AM -0600, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >>> Shannon Zhao <zhaoshenglong@huawei.com> 09/02/15 8:03 AM >>>
> >There are some descriptions in Documentation/arm64/booting.txt of Linux:
> >
> >"The Image must be placed text_offset bytes from a 2MB aligned base
> >address near the start of usable system RAM and called there. Memory
> >below that base address is currently unusable by Linux, and therefore it
> >is strongly recommended that this location is the start of system RAM.
> >At least image_size bytes from the start of the image must be free for
> >use by the kernel."
> >
> >From this, it says "Memory below that base address is currently unusable
> >by Linux". So if we put these tables below Dom0 RAM address and even
> >describe these regions as RAM, the Linux could not use them.
> 
> May I remind you that a design should not take specific guest OS
> implementation details (which even for that one OS may change over time)
> as the basis for decisions?
> 
While I agree that the guest behavior should not dictate an unfortunate
design, surely factoring in the behavior of the expected guests in the
design is a reasonable thing to do?

Changing the boot requirements of Linux for an architecture is a really
invasive change, IMHO, and should be avoided if possible.

Are there other acceptable solutions for placing the EFI tables
somewhere else that would work?

Thanks,
-Christoffer

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-02  9:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-28  9:45 Design doc of adding ACPI support for arm64 on Xen - version 5 Shannon Zhao
2015-08-28 12:55 ` Julien Grall
2015-08-29  1:00   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-31  7:33     ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-31 11:44     ` Julien Grall
2015-08-31 12:03       ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-31 12:34         ` Julien Grall
2015-09-01  4:12           ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-01 11:28             ` Julien Grall
2015-09-01 12:35               ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-01 13:40                 ` Julien Grall
2015-09-01 14:03                   ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-01 14:20                     ` Julien Grall
2015-09-02  6:02                   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-02  8:41                     ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-02  9:18                       ` Christoffer Dall [this message]
2015-09-02 11:15                         ` Julien Grall
2015-09-02  9:25                       ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-02 12:30                         ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-02 11:09                     ` Julien Grall
2015-09-02 12:02                       ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-02 12:52                         ` Julien Grall
2015-09-02 13:26                           ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-02 13:48                             ` Julien Grall
2015-09-02 13:54                               ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-02 13:57                                 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-09-02 15:27                                   ` Leif Lindholm
2015-09-02 15:37                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-02 14:00                               ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-02 12:58           ` Ian Campbell
2015-08-28 15:06 ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-29  1:29   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-31  7:39     ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-31  8:51       ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-31  9:40         ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-31 11:31           ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-31 11:46             ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-02 12:54           ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-02 13:59             ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-02 14:24               ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-02 12:18 ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-07  3:37   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-07 10:47     ` Stefano Stabellini

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