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From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Haozhong Zhang <haozhong.zhang@intel.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	feng.wu@intel.com, Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>, Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] hvmloader: add support to load extra ACPI tables from qemu
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 12:48:06 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160120174805.GA3385@char.us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <569FC293.9030904@linux.intel.com>

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 01:23:31AM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
> 
> 
> On 01/21/2016 01:18 AM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> >>>>>>c) hotplug support
> >>>>>
> >>>>>How does that work? Ah the _DSM will point to the new ACPI NFIT for the OS
> >>>>>to scan. That would require the hypervisor also reading this for it to
> >>>>>update it's data-structures.
> >>>>
> >>>>Similar as you said. The NVDIMM root device in SSDT/DSDT dedicates a new interface,
> >>>>_FIT, which return the new NFIT once new device hotplugged. And yes, domain 0 is
> >>>>the better place handing this case too.
> >>>
> >>>That one is a bit difficult. Both the OS and the hypervisor would need to know about
> >>>this (I think?). dom0 since it gets the ACPI event and needs to process it. Then
> >>>the hypervisor needs to be told so it can slurp it up.
> >>
> >>Can dom0 receive the interrupt triggered by device hotplug? If yes, we can let dom0
> >
> >Yes of course it can.
> >>handle all the things like native. If it can not, dom0 can interpret ACPI and fetch
> >>the irq info out and tell hypervior to pass the irq to dom0, it is doable?
> >>
> >>>
> >>>However I don't know if the hypervisor needs to know all the details of an
> >>>NVDIMM - or just the starting and ending ranges so that when an guest is created
> >>>and the VT-d is constructed - it can be assured that the ranges are valid.
> >>>
> >>>I am not an expert on the P2M code - but I think that would need to be looked
> >>>at to make sure it is OK with stitching an E820_NVDIMM type "MFN" into an guest PFN.
> >>
> >>We do better do not use "E820" as it lacks some advantages of ACPI, such as, NUMA, hotplug,
> >>lable support (namespace)...
> >
> ><hand-waves> I don't know what QEMU does for guests? I naively assumed it would
> >create an E820_NVDIMM along with the ACPI MADT NFIT tables (and the SSDT to have
> >the _DSM).
> 
> Ah, ACPI eliminates this E820 entry.
> 
> >
> >Either way what I think you need to investigate is what is neccessary for the
> >Xen hypervisor VT-d code (IOMMU) to have an entry which is the system address for
> >the NVDIMM. Based on that - you will know what kind of exposure the hypervisor
> >needs to the _FIT and NFIT tables.
> >
> 
> Interesting. I did not consider using NVDIMM as DMA. Do you have usecase for this
> kind of NVDIMM usage?

An easy one is iSCSI target. You could have an SR-IOV NIC that would have TCM
enabled (CONFIG_TCM_FILEIO or CONFIG_TCM_IBLOCK). Mount an file on the /dev/pmem0
(using DAX enabled FS) and export it as iSCSI LUN. The traffic would go over an SR-IOV NIC.

The DMA transactions would be SR-IOV NIC <-> NVDIMM.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-20 17:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-29 11:31 [PATCH 0/4] add support for vNVDIMM Haozhong Zhang
2015-12-29 11:31 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86/hvm: allow guest to use clflushopt and clwb Haozhong Zhang
2015-12-29 15:46   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-30  1:35     ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-12-30  2:16       ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-12-30 10:33         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-29 11:31 ` [PATCH 2/4] x86/hvm: add support for pcommit instruction Haozhong Zhang
2015-12-29 11:31 ` [PATCH 3/4] tools/xl: add a new xl configuration 'nvdimm' Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-04 11:16   ` Wei Liu
2016-01-06 12:40   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-06 15:28     ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-12-29 11:31 ` [PATCH 4/4] hvmloader: add support to load extra ACPI tables from qemu Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-15 17:10   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-18  0:52     ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-18  8:46       ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-19 11:37         ` Wei Liu
2016-01-19 11:46           ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-20  5:14             ` Tian, Kevin
2016-01-20  5:58               ` Zhang, Haozhong
2016-01-20  5:31         ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-20  8:46           ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-20  8:58             ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-20 10:15               ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-20 10:36                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-01-20 13:16                   ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-20 14:29                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-01-20 14:42                       ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-20 14:45                       ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-20 14:53                         ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-20 15:13                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-20 15:29                             ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-20 15:41                               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-20 15:54                                 ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-21  3:35                                 ` Bob Liu
2016-01-20 15:05                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-01-20 18:14                           ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-20 14:38                     ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-20 11:04             ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-20 11:20               ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-20 15:29                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-01-20 15:47                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-20 16:25                     ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-01-20 16:47                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-20 16:55                         ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-01-20 17:18                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-20 17:23                             ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-01-20 17:48                               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2016-01-21  3:12                             ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-20 17:07                   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-20 17:17                     ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-01-21  8:18                       ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-21  8:25                         ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-01-21  8:53                           ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-21  9:10                             ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-01-21  9:29                               ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-21 10:26                                 ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-21 10:25                               ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-21 14:01                                 ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-21 14:52                                   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22  2:43                                     ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-26 11:44                                     ` George Dunlap
2016-01-26 12:44                                       ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-26 12:54                                         ` Juergen Gross
2016-01-26 14:44                                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-26 15:37                                             ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-26 15:57                                               ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-26 16:34                                                 ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-26 19:32                                                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-27  7:22                                                     ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-27 10:16                                                     ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-27 14:50                                                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-27 10:55                                                   ` George Dunlap
2016-01-26 13:58                                         ` George Dunlap
2016-01-26 14:46                                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-26 15:30                                         ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-26 15:33                                           ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-26 15:57                                           ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-27  2:23                                             ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-20 15:07               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-06 15:37 ` [PATCH 0/4] add support for vNVDIMM Ian Campbell
2016-01-06 15:47   ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-20  3:28 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-01-20 12:43   ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-01-20 14:26     ` Zhang, Haozhong
2016-01-20 14:35       ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-01-20 14:47         ` Zhang, Haozhong
2016-01-20 14:54           ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-20 15:59             ` Haozhong Zhang

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