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From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@suse.com>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
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	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
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	Xen Devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
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	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
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	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>,
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	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	mcb30@ipxe.org, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	long.wanglo
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v2 3/3] paravirt: rename paravirt_enabled to paravirt_legacy
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 07:22:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160209062237.GH25240@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56B8C7EC.3090403@citrix.com>

On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 04:53:00PM +0000, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 08/02/16 16:45, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 04:38:40PM +0000, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> >> Does the early loader have extable support?  If so, this is fairly easy
> >> to fix.  If not, we have a problem.
> > It doesn't and regardless, you want to have this CPUID querying as
> > simple as possible. No special handling, no special prefixes as it
> > should be able to run on other hypervisors too.
> >
> > If one can't execute a simple CPUID(0x4...) on a xen guest and get the
> > results back, then for early, we will have to do what we've done until
> > now and simply emulate the MSR accesses.
> >
> > Later code can use then xen_cpuid() and all is fine. We should still get
> > rid of paravirt_enabled() though.
> >
> 
> The force emulation prefix starts with a ud2a instruction, so extable is
> to prevent it breaking on non-Xen systems.  However, if extable isn't
> available, this point is moot.
> 
> As an alternative check which should be doable this early on, peeking in
> the head of hypercall_page should work.  If Linux was booted as a PV
> guest, the hypercall_page will have been constructed by the domain
> builder, and won't have 0x90's in it.

Most of the paravirt_enabled() checks can be replaced with a hardware_subarch
check once we modify the xen_start_kernel() to add that, today XEN is unused
even though it was added eons ago. Part of my work was to remove as many
paravirt_enabled() checks. I'll reply to Andy's original e-mail now indicating
which ones I could address, it sounds like with this nugget and some other
work we might be able to address all.

I should note, in the future the check for subarch would be an explicit part of
the x86 early init init routines to avoid further issues but only in between
x86_64_start_reservations() and setup_arch(). How *early* can such a hypercall
_page check be *safely* be called? I say safely here as if we're not on Xen are
we OK to muck around and check the same address space?

Provided we use the subarch for PV to remove a lot of the paravirt_enabled()
checks, is HVMLite still OK if it ends up using  PC subarch and there not being
a paravirt_enabled() anyamore? Boris O's HVMLite series added paravirt_enabled
= 1 for the new HVMLite.

  Luis

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-09  6:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-06  4:30 [PATCH v2 0/3] paravirt: rebrand paravirt_enabled as paravirt_legacy Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-06  4:30 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] paravirt: use bool for paravirt_enabled() and paravirt_has_feature() Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-06  4:30 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] paravirt: replace direct access to pv_info.paravirt_enabled Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-06  4:30 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] paravirt: rename paravirt_enabled to paravirt_legacy Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-06  7:11   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-02-06  8:59     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-06 20:05       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-02-06 22:04         ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 15:39           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 15:55             ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 16:05               ` [Xen-devel] " Andrew Cooper
2016-02-08 16:12                 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 16:26                   ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-08 16:31                     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 16:32                       ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-08 16:35                       ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 16:38                         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-08 16:45                           ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 16:52                             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 20:45                               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 21:06                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 16:53                             ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-08 17:13                               ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-09  6:22                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2016-02-08 16:41                         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 16:52                           ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 15:31         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 15:46           ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-09  6:59             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-08 21:04           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-02-09  7:06           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-17 20:07             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-17 20:49               ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-17 21:12                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-17 21:21                 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-17 22:03                   ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-17 22:18                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-02-17 22:39                       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-17 23:39                         ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-17 22:19                     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-17 22:35                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-09  6:41         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-08 21:49       ` Boris Ostrovsky

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