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From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Cc: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	jinsong.liu@alibaba-inc.com,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org, mpohlack@amazon.de,
	ross.lagerwall@citrix.com,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@citrix.com>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	Daniel De Graaf <dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>,
	sasha.levin@citrix.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 13/23] XENVER_build_id: Provide ld-embedded build-ids (v10)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 15:40:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160216204057.GB18678@char.us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56C385F3.7010009@citrix.com>

> >>> +/* Return value is the number of bytes written, or XEN_Exx on error.
> >>> + * Calling with empty parameter returns the size of build_id. */
> >>> +#define XENVER_build_id 10
> >>> +struct xen_build_id {
> >>> +        uint32_t        len; /* IN: size of buf[]. */
> >>> +#if defined(__STDC_VERSION__) && __STDC_VERSION__ >= 199901L
> >>> +        unsigned char   buf[];
> >>> +#elif defined(__GNUC__)
> >>> +        unsigned char   buf[1]; /* OUT: Variable length buffer with build_id. */
> >>> +#endif
> >>> +};
> >>> +typedef struct xen_build_id xen_build_id_t;
> >> I am still against trying to perpetuate this broken interface.  Variable
> >> length structures are a pain for everyone to use.  How about introducing
> >> a brand new hypercall with a separate length and data parameters?
> > As in subop to sysctl? I am fine with that (which is what I think was
> > in the first iteration of this patch had). Or it could go under the
> > XSPLICE subops :-)
> >
> > Preferences?
> 
> A completely brand new hypercall.  Then we can deprecate the existing
> xenver, including moving the relevent information such as plain version
> numbers and leaving the irrelevant information (compile date, etc.).

How would you deprecate the xenver when there are existing guests that
depend on this? Say RHEL5, SLES11 or NetBSD? They are not going to move
over and it would be a bit of silly to deprecate something and actually
never deprecate it because of users still depending on it.

Let me stress out that I have no problems adding a new hypercall (albeit
I think it is an overkill), and adding BUILD_ID in it. However I wouldn't
have the time for Xen 4.7 to add the rest of the sub-ops in it - such as
version, command line, what not.

Keep in mind we have one month left..

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-16 20:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-12 18:05 [PATCH v3] xSplice v1 implementation and design Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-12 18:05 ` [PATCH v3 01/23] xen/xsplice: Hypervisor implementation of XEN_XSPLICE_op (v10) Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-12 20:11   ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-12 20:40     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-12 20:53       ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-15  8:16       ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-19 19:36     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-19 19:43       ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-12 18:05 ` [PATCH v3 02/23] libxc: Implementation of XEN_XSPLICE_op in libxc (v5) Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-15 12:35   ` Wei Liu
2016-02-19 20:04     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-12 18:05 ` [PATCH v3 03/23] xen-xsplice: Tool to manipulate xsplice payloads (v4) Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-15 12:59   ` Wei Liu
2016-02-19 20:46     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-12 18:05 ` [PATCH v3 04/23] elf: Add relocation types to elfstructs.h Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-12 20:13   ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-15  8:34   ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-19 21:05     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-22 10:17       ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-22 15:19       ` Ross Lagerwall
2016-02-12 18:05 ` [PATCH v3 05/23] xsplice: Add helper elf routines (v4) Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-12 20:24   ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-12 20:47     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-12 20:52       ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-12 18:05 ` [PATCH v3 06/23] xsplice: Implement payload loading (v4) Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-12 20:48   ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-19 22:03     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-12 18:05 ` [PATCH v3 07/23] xsplice: Implement support for applying/reverting/replacing patches. (v5) Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-16 19:11   ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-17  8:58     ` Ross Lagerwall
2016-02-17 10:50     ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-19  9:30     ` Ross Lagerwall
2016-02-23 20:41     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-23 20:53       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-23 20:57       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-23 21:10       ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-24  9:31         ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-22 15:00   ` Ross Lagerwall
2016-02-22 17:06     ` Ross Lagerwall
2016-02-23 20:47       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-23 20:43     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-12 18:05 ` [PATCH v3 08/23] x86/xen_hello_world.xsplice: Test payload for patching 'xen_extra_version'. (v2) Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-16 11:31   ` Ross Lagerwall
2016-02-12 18:05 ` [PATCH v3 09/23] xsplice: Add support for bug frames. (v4) Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-16 19:35   ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-24 16:22     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-24 16:30       ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-24 16:26     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-12 18:05 ` [PATCH v3 10/23] xsplice: Add support for exception tables. (v2) Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-12 18:05 ` [PATCH v3 11/23] xsplice: Add support for alternatives Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-16 19:41   ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-12 18:05 ` [PATCH v3 12/23] xsm/xen_version: Add XSM for the xen_version hypercall (v8) Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-12 21:52   ` Daniel De Graaf
2016-02-12 18:05 ` [PATCH v3 13/23] XENVER_build_id: Provide ld-embedded build-ids (v10) Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-12 21:52   ` Daniel De Graaf
2016-02-16 20:09   ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-16 20:22     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-16 20:26       ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-16 20:40         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2016-02-24 18:52     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-24 19:13       ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-24 20:54         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-12 18:05 ` [PATCH v3 14/23] libxl: info: Display build_id of the hypervisor Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-15 12:45   ` Wei Liu
2016-02-12 18:05 ` [PATCH v3 15/23] xsplice: Print build_id in keyhandler Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-16 20:13   ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-12 18:05 ` [PATCH v3 16/23] xsplice: basic build-id dependency checking Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-12 18:05 ` [PATCH v3 17/23] xsplice: Print dependency and payloads build_id in the keyhandler Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-16 20:20   ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-17 11:10     ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-24 21:54       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-25  8:47         ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-12 18:05 ` [PATCH v3 18/23] xsplice: Prevent duplicate payloads to be loaded Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-12 18:05 ` [PATCH v3 19/23] xsplice, symbols: Implement symbol name resolution on address. (v2) Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-22 14:57   ` Ross Lagerwall
2016-02-12 18:05 ` [PATCH v3 20/23] x86, xsplice: Print payload's symbol name and module in backtraces Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-12 18:05 ` [PATCH v3 21/23] xsplice: Add support for shadow variables Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-07  7:40   ` Martin Pohlack
2016-03-15 18:02     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-07 18:52   ` Martin Pohlack
2016-02-12 18:06 ` [PATCH v3 22/23] xsplice: Add hooks functions and other macros Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-12 18:06 ` [PATCH v3 23/23] xsplice, hello_world: Use the XSPLICE_[UN|]LOAD_HOOK hooks for two functions Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-12 21:57 ` [PATCH v3] xSplice v1 implementation and design Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-12 21:57   ` [PATCH v3 MISSING/23] xsplice: Design document (v7) Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-18 16:20     ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-19 18:36       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk

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