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From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	bp@alien8.de, hpa@zytor.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, luto@amacapital.net,
	boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, david.vrabel@citrix.com,
	konrad.wilk@oracle.com, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
	lguest@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/11] x86/boot: enumerate documentation for the x86 hardware_subarch
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 21:41:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160223204135.GH25240@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160223103409.GF25240@wotan.suse.de>

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:34:09AM +0100, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 09:51:19AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > * Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@kernel.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > Although hardware_subarch has been in place since the x86 boot
> > > protocol 2.07 it hasn't been used much. Enumerate current possible
> > > values to avoid misuses and help with semantics later at boot
> > > time should this be used further.
> > > 
> > > v2: fix typos
> > > 
> > > Cc: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@kernel.org>
> > > ---
> > >  arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/bootparam.h | 31 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> > >  1 file changed, 30 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/bootparam.h b/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/bootparam.h
> > > index 329254373479..50d5009cf276 100644
> > > --- a/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/bootparam.h
> > > +++ b/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/bootparam.h
> > > @@ -157,7 +157,36 @@ struct boot_params {
> > >  	__u8  _pad9[276];				/* 0xeec */
> > >  } __attribute__((packed));
> > >  
> > > -enum {
> > > +/**
> > > + * enum x86_hardware_subarch - x86 hardware subarchitecture
> > > + *
> > > + * The x86 hardware_subarch and hardware_subarch_data were added as of the x86
> > > + * boot protocol 2.07 to help distinguish and supports custom x86 boot
> > > + * sequences. This enum represents accepted values for the x86
> > > + * hardware_subarch. Custom x86 boot sequences (not X86_SUBARCH_PC) do not have
> > > + * or simply do not make use of natural stubs like BIOS or EFI, the
> > > + * hardware_subarch can be used on the Linux entry path to revector to a
> > > + * subarchitecture stub when needed. This subarchitecture stub can be used to
> > > + * set up Linux boot parameters or for special care to account for nonstandard
> > > + * handling of page tables.
> > > + *
> > > + * KVM and Xen HVM do not have a subarch as these are expected to follow
> > > + * standard x86 boot entries. If there is a genuine need for "hypervisor" type
> > > + * that should be considered separately in the future.
> > > + *
> > > + * @X86_SUBARCH_PC: Should be used if the hardware is enumerable using standard
> > > + *	PC mechanisms (PCI, ACPI) and doesn't need a special boot flow.
> > > + * @X86_SUBARCH_LGUEST: Used for x86 hypervisor demo, lguest
> > > + * @X86_SUBARCH_XEN: Used for Xen guest types which follow the PV boot path,
> > > + * 	which start at asm startup_xen() entry point and later jump to the C
> > > + * 	xen_start_kernel() entry point.
> > > + * @X86_SUBARCH_INTEL_MID: Used for Intel MID (Mobile Internet Device) platform
> > > + *	systems which do not have the PCI legacy interfaces.
> > > + * @X86_SUBARCH_CE4100: Used for Intel CE media processor (CE4100) SOC for
> > > + * 	for settop boxes and media devices, the use of a subarch for CE4100
> > > + * 	is more of a hack...
> > > + */
> > > +enum x86_hardware_subarch {
> > >  	X86_SUBARCH_PC = 0,
> > >  	X86_SUBARCH_LGUEST,
> > >  	X86_SUBARCH_XEN,
> > 
> > No, this is really backwards.
> > 
> > While I agree that we want to get rid of paravirt_enabled(), we _dont_ want to 
> > spread the use of (arguably broken) boot flags like this!
> 
> I agree that we should not see the spread of boot flags around general x86
> code, its not my goal to spread it though, the code that uses it here though is
> *early boot code* (although in retrospect the pnpbios use was a fuckup), and I
> have some special considerations for early boot code which I think does give
> merit to it use. But also keep in mind my goal is to rather fold the boot flag
> so its more just an architectural consideration eventually. More on this below.

It seems I TL;DR suck; all this is a long winded way of asking, can we keep the
subarch just for EBDA and use the flags for the other things as you noted?

  Luis

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-23 20:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-23  7:24 [PATCH v3 00/11] x86/init: replace paravirt_enabled() were possible Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-23  7:24 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] x86/boot: enumerate documentation for the x86 hardware_subarch Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-23  8:51   ` Ingo Molnar
2016-02-23 10:34     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-23 20:41       ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2016-02-24  8:32         ` Ingo Molnar
2016-02-24 16:40           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-02-25  1:18             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-25  1:29               ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]             ` <CALCETrW=dia7QCDhJVF8rnaKGDx_NNYVZqUNZSs9R87_o=h6NQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-25  8:10               ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-02  0:43           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-03-02 19:40             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-07 20:59           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-23  7:24 ` [PATCH v3 02/11] tools/lguest: make lguest launcher use X86_SUBARCH_LGUEST explicitly Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-23  7:24 ` [PATCH v3 03/11] x86/xen: use X86_SUBARCH_XEN for PV guest boots Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-23  7:24 ` [PATCH v3 04/11] x86/init: make ebda depend on PC subarch Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-23  7:24 ` [PATCH v3 05/11] tools/lguest: force disable tboot and apm Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-23  7:24 ` [PATCH v3 06/11] apm32: remove paravirt_enabled() use Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-23  7:24 ` [PATCH v3 07/11] x86/tboot: remove paravirt_enabled() Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-23  7:24 ` [PATCH v3 08/11] x86/cpu/intel: replace paravirt_enabled() for f00f work around Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-23  7:24 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] x86/boot: add BIT() to boot/bitops.h Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-23  7:24 ` [PATCH v3 10/11] x86/rtc: replace paravirt rtc check with x86 specific solution Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-23 11:57   ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2016-02-23 18:10     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-23  7:24 ` [PATCH v3 11/11] pnpbios: replace paravirt_enabled() check with subarch checks Luis R. Rodriguez

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