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From: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	PaulDurrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>,
	Anthony PERARD <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: Domctl and physdevop for passthrough (Was: Re: Stabilising some tools only HVMOPs?)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 10:52:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160301105258.GK17111@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56D558B202000078000D7A6F@prv-mh.provo.novell.com>

On Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 12:54:09AM -0700, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >>> On 29.02.16 at 19:12, <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:
> > I read the XSA-154 patch and think a little bit on whether making
> > dedicated hypercall is feasible.
> > 
> > 1. The patch for XSA-154 mentions that only MMIO mappings with
> >    inconsistent attributes can cause system instability.
> > 2. PV case is hard, but the device model library is only of interest to
> >    HVM domain, so PV can be ignored.
> > 3. We want to continue honoring pinned cachability attributes for HVM
> >    domain.
> > 
> > It seems we have a way forward. Say, we have new hypercall just for
> > pinning video ram cachability attribute.
> > 
> > The new hypercall has following properties:
> > 
> > 1. It can only be used on HVM domains.
> > 2. It can only be used on mfns that are not in MMIO ranges, because
> >    vram is just normal ram.
> > 3. It can only set the cachability attribute to WC (used by video ram).
> > 4. It is not considered stable.
> > 
> > so that it won't be abused to change cachability attributes of MMIO
> > mappings on PV guest to make the host unstable. The stale data issue is
> > of no relevance as stated in XSA-154 patch.
> > 
> > Does this sound plausible?
> 
> Yes, it does, but it extends our dependency on what we've been
> told in the context of XSA-154 is actually true (and has been true
> for all earlier processor generations, and will continue to be true
> in the future).
> But then I don't immediately see why the existing
> pinning operation won't suffice: It's a domctl (i.e. we can change
> it), you say you don't need it to be stable, and it's already
> documented as being intended for RAM only (albeit iirc that's not
> getting enforced anywhere right now). The main present
> problem (which I don't see a new hypercall to solve) is that it's
> GFN-based, and the GFN->MFN mapping can change after such
> pinning got established. Otoh I think that by changing the
> placement of the hvm_get_mem_pinned_cacheattr() calls we
> could enforce the RAM-only aspect quite easily. Let me put
> together a patch ...
> 

That would be good. Thank you very much.

Wei.


> Jan
> 

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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-17 17:28 Stabilising some tools only HVMOPs? Wei Liu
2016-02-18 10:24 ` Ian Campbell
2016-02-18 10:37   ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-18 10:45     ` Wei Liu
2016-02-18 10:53       ` Ian Campbell
2016-02-18 10:55         ` Wei Liu
2016-02-18 10:56       ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-18 10:31 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-18 10:36   ` Wei Liu
2016-02-18 10:44   ` Ian Campbell
2016-02-18 10:55     ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-18 10:59       ` Wei Liu
2016-02-18 11:04         ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-18 12:51 ` Wei Liu
2016-02-18 16:28   ` Ian Jackson
2016-02-18 16:29     ` Wei Liu
2016-02-18 16:41     ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-18 16:45       ` Ian Jackson
2016-02-18 16:49       ` Wei Liu
2016-02-18 16:37   ` Ian Campbell
2016-02-19 16:05 ` Domctl and physdevop for passthrough (Was: Re: Stabilising some tools only HVMOPs?) Wei Liu
2016-02-22 11:28   ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-22 11:56     ` Wei Liu
2016-02-23 14:31     ` Wei Liu
2016-02-23 15:46       ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-23 17:09         ` Wei Liu
2016-02-23 17:24           ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-23 17:28             ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-23 17:55             ` Wei Liu
2016-02-29 12:23       ` Wei Liu
2016-02-29 12:29         ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-29 18:12           ` Wei Liu
2016-03-01  7:54             ` Jan Beulich
2016-03-01 10:52               ` Wei Liu [this message]
2016-03-01 11:10                 ` Jan Beulich

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