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From: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>
To: David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>
Cc: Sergei Lebedev <sergei.a.lebedev@gmail.com>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] xs.watch and xs.unwatch are unreliable
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 18:57:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160303185745.GM5535@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56D871E7.4010906@citrix.com>

On Thu, Mar 03, 2016 at 05:18:31PM +0000, David Vrabel wrote:
> On 03/03/16 17:02, Wei Liu wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 03, 2016 at 04:47:12PM +0000, David Vrabel wrote:
> >> On 01/03/16 20:17, Sergei Lebedev wrote:
> >>> Hi list,
> >>>
> >>> I’ve initially wanted to report another inconsistency in
> >>> ``xen.lowlevel.xs`` documentation, but this time the issue is more
> >>> subtle.
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >>> Here’s another example with a string token
> >>>
> >>>     >>> token1 = str(100000000000000000000000000000)
> >>>     >>> token2 = str(100000000000000000000000000000)
> >>>     >>> token1 == token2
> >>>     True
> >>>     >>> h.watch("@introduceDomain", token1)
> >>>     >>> h.unwatch("@introduceDomain", token2)
> >>>     Traceback (most recent call last):
> >>>       File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
> >>>     xen.lowlevel.xs.Error: (2, 'No such file or directory’)
> >>>
> >>> I’m not sure what would be the best way to handle this as there might
> >>> be existing code relying on this undocumented behaviour. What do you
> >>> think?
> >>
> >> I think you're stuck with this behaviour.  If you fix it there's a risk
> >> of breaking existing applications by unwatch removing the wrong watch.
> >>
> > 
> > I'm not sure I follow this. Do you have an example why it would remove
> > the wrong watch?
> 
>   token1 = str(100000000000000000000000000000)
>   token2 = str(100000000000000000000000000000)
> 
>   h.watch("path", token1)
>   h.watch("path", token2)
> 
> Created two unique tokens.
> 
>   h.unwatch("path", token1)
> 
> Which watch should be removed if token1 and token2 no longer have a
> unique token?  Although, I'm not sure of the behaviour of adding two
> watches with the same token.
> 

Right. I also have no idea what the behaviour should be...

But given the incarnation of the binding, user would expect it to behave
the same as the underlying C API. Python binding is not responsible for
covering up the undefined behaviour.

And a side note is that the bindings of xs_watch and xs_unwatch can only
be used safely in very restricted way. That is, user needs to stash the
exact token object somewhere, which is not impossible, but also very
inconvenient.

Let's either document this behaviour or change it. I don't have
preference here.

> It also occurs to me that if this area is going to be improved, it
> should be the kernel that provides the token since it has to be unique
> across all users.
> 

This would be good.

Wei.

> David

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Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-01 20:17 [BUG] xs.watch and xs.unwatch are unreliable Sergei Lebedev
2016-03-02 16:03 ` Wei Liu
2016-03-03 16:47 ` David Vrabel
2016-03-03 17:02   ` Wei Liu
2016-03-03 17:18     ` David Vrabel
2016-03-03 18:57       ` Wei Liu [this message]

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