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From: "Marek Marczykowski-Górecki" <marmarek@invisiblethingslab.com>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Cc: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>, xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: e820_host default value and libxl (not xl)
Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 13:27:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160523112731.GC25975@mail-itl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5742E27E.2070400@citrix.com>


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On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:59:10AM +0100, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 23/05/16 11:47, Wei Liu wrote:
> > On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 04:42:11AM +0200, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> According to xl.cfg(5) " This option defaults to true (1) if any PCI
> >> passthrough devices are configured and false (0) otherwise."
> >> And indeed this behaviour is implemented in xl. But not in libxl, which
> >> means other libxl based toolstacks (libvirt) will not take advantage of
> >> this directly.
> >>
> >> What would be the best approach here? Duplicate that behaviour in
> >> libvirt (currently libvirt knows nothing about this option), or move
> >> that default handling to libxl? I think the later makes more sense, but
> >> maybe there is some reason against it?
> >>
> > The latter.
> >
> > I wouldn't be surprised if the boundary between xl and libxl was
> > overlooked when implementing this flag. I've done similar things to push
> > xsm label handling logic from xl to libxl.
> 
> Please don't propage this bandaid any further than it currently is.  It
> is not appropriate for libxl to set this by default.
> 
> The reason it is currently used is because libxl/libxc doesn't know how
> to lay out a guests physmap.  This is something I am working on
> resolving for some ballooning issues we are having in XenServer.

Does it mean e820_host wouldn't be needed anymore?

> xl can get away defaulting this on, because xl is inherently a single
> host toolstack.  However, using host_e820 is wrong for any multi-host
> setup where the VM might plausibly migrate (which includes the
> passthrough case here).

But *currently* having host_e820 disabled makes it impossible to
passthrough some devices, even when no migration is involved. Libvirt
does not support e820_host. So, I'm looking for a solution for the
problem, which makes it impossible to use some devices at all when using
libvirt.

If e820_host will not be needed anymore in the near future, I can wait,
or simply carry a local patch for this. But otherwise I think it would
be good to fix this in either libxl or libvirt.

-- 
Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-23 11:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-21  2:42 e820_host default value and libxl (not xl) Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
2016-05-23 10:33 ` Dario Faggioli
2016-05-23 10:47 ` Wei Liu
2016-05-23 10:59   ` Andrew Cooper
2016-05-23 11:27     ` Marek Marczykowski-Górecki [this message]
2016-05-23 13:14       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-05-23 13:30     ` Wei Liu
2016-05-23 13:10   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk

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