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From: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>
To: Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>
Cc: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Aaron Cornelius <aaron.cornelius@dornerworks.com>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: Xen 4.7 crash
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 15:19:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160606141931.GH14588@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5755833B.4090105@arm.com>

On Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 03:05:47PM +0100, Julien Grall wrote:
> (CC Ian, Stefano and Wei)
> 
> Hello Aaron,
> 
> On 06/06/16 14:58, Aaron Cornelius wrote:
> >On 6/2/2016 5:07 AM, Julien Grall wrote:
> >>Hello Aaron,
> >>
> >>On 02/06/2016 02:32, Aaron Cornelius wrote:
> >>>This is with a custom application, we use the libxl APIs to interact
> >>>with Xen.  Domains are created using the libxl_domain_create_new()
> >>>function, and domains are destroyed using the libxl_domain_destroy()
> >>>function.
> >>>
> >>>The test in this case creates a domain, waits a minute, then
> >>>deletes/creates the next domain, waits a minute, and so on.  So I
> >>>wouldn't be surprised to see the VMID occasionally indicate there are 2
> >>>active domains since there could be one being created and one being
> >>>destroyed in a very short time.  However, I wouldn't expect to ever have
> >>>256 domains.
> >>
> >>Your log has:
> >>
> >>(XEN) grant_table.c:3288:d0v1 Grant release (0) ref:(9) flags:(2) dom:(0)
> >>(XEN) grant_table.c:3288:d0v1 Grant release (1) ref:(11) flags:(2)
> >>dom:(0)
> >>
> >>Which suggest that some grants are still mapped in DOM0.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>The CubieTruck only has 2GB of RAM, I allocate 512MB for dom0 which
> >>>means that only 48 of the the Mirage domains (with 32MB of RAM) would
> >>>work at the same time anyway.  Which doesn't account for the various
> >>>inter-domain resources or the RAM used by Xen itself.
> >>
> >>All the pages who belongs to the domain could have been freed except the
> >>one referenced by DOM0. So the footprint of this domain will be limited
> >>at the time.
> >>
> >>I would recommend you to check how many domain are running at this time
> >>and if DOM0 effectively released all the resources.
> >>
> >>>If the p2m_teardown() function checked for NULL it would prevent the
> >>>crash, but I suspect Xen would be just as broken since all of my
> >>>resources have leaked away.  More broken in fact, since if the board
> >>>reboots at least the applications will restart and domains can be
> >>>recreated.
> >>>
> >>>It certainly appears that some resources are leaking when domains are
> >>>deleted (possibly only on the ARM or ARM32 platforms).  We will try to
> >>>add some debug prints and see if we can discover exactly what is
> >>>going on.
> >>
> >>The leakage could also happen from DOM0. FWIW, I have been able to cycle
> >>2000 guests over the night on an ARM platforms.
> >>
> >
> >We've done some more testing regarding this issue.  And further testing
> >shows that it doesn't matter if we delete the vchans before the domains
> >are deleted.  Those appear to be cleaned up correctly when the domain is
> >destroyed.
> >
> >What does stop this issue from happening (using the same version of Xen
> >that the issue was detected on) is removing any non-standard xenstore
> >references before deleting the domain.  In this case our application
> >allocates permissions for created domains to non-standard xenstore
> >paths.  Making sure to remove those domain permissions before deleting
> >the domain prevents this issue from happening.
> 
> I am not sure to understand what you mean here. Could you give a quick
> example?
> 
> >
> >It does not appear to matter if we delete the standard domain xenstore
> >path (/local/domain/<id>) since libxl handles removing this path when
> >the domain is destroyed.
> >
> >Based on this I would guess that the xenstore is hanging onto the VMID.
> 

This is a somewhat strange conclusion. I guess the root cause is still
unclear at this point.

Is it possible that something else what rely on those xenstore node to
free up resources?

Wei.

> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Julien Grall

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-06 14:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-01 19:54 Xen 4.7 crash Aaron Cornelius
2016-06-01 20:00 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-06-01 20:45   ` Aaron Cornelius
2016-06-01 21:24     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-06-01 22:18       ` Julien Grall
2016-06-01 22:26         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-06-01 21:35 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-06-01 22:24   ` Julien Grall
2016-06-01 22:31     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-06-02  8:47       ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-02  8:53         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-06-02  9:07           ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-01 22:35 ` Julien Grall
2016-06-02  1:32   ` Aaron Cornelius
2016-06-02  8:49     ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-02  9:07     ` Julien Grall
2016-06-06 13:58       ` Aaron Cornelius
2016-06-06 14:05         ` Julien Grall
2016-06-06 14:19           ` Wei Liu [this message]
2016-06-06 15:02             ` Aaron Cornelius
2016-06-07  9:53               ` Ian Jackson
2016-06-07 13:40                 ` Aaron Cornelius
2016-06-07 15:13                   ` Aaron Cornelius
2016-06-09 11:14                     ` Ian Jackson
2016-06-14 13:11                       ` Aaron Cornelius
2016-06-14 13:15                         ` Wei Liu
2016-06-14 13:26                           ` Aaron Cornelius
2016-06-14 13:38                             ` Aaron Cornelius
2016-06-14 13:47                               ` Wei Liu

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