Define a new Wiki part for Xen Project.

Define a new Wiki part for Xen Project.

[Jason Long]

Hello developers.
I have a request and please let me know your idea.
Can Xen experts define a new part on Wiki about Xen developing for beginners? I mean is something like "
kernelnewbies.org" but for Xen. For example, say to users which programming languages are necessary, which book is good for learning those languages and which part of Xen codes are good for start.
I know it may funny for someone here or smeone consider the questions like it as Spam but be sure it help begginers and other users for improve Xen and get involved to project.
I like to hear developers idea.

Thank you.

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Re: Define a new Wiki part for Xen Project.

[Geza Gemes]

On 11/18/2016 11:25 AM, Jason Long wrote:
> Hello developers.
> I have a request and please let me know your idea.
> Can Xen experts define a new part on Wiki about Xen developing for beginners? I mean is something like "
> kernelnewbies.org" but for Xen. For example, say to users which programming languages are necessary, which book is good for learning those languages and which part of Xen codes are good for start.
> I know it may funny for someone here or smeone consider the questions like it as Spam but be sure it help begginers and other users for improve Xen and get involved to project.
> I like to hear developers idea.
>
> Thank you.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Xen-devel mailing list
> Xen-devel@lists.xen.org
> https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel

Hi,

As a xennewby I definitely support your idea!

Cheers,

Geza


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Re: Define a new Wiki part for Xen Project.

[Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk]

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 04:22:07PM +0100, Geza Gemes wrote:
> On 11/18/2016 11:25 AM, Jason Long wrote:
> > Hello developers.
> > I have a request and please let me know your idea.
> > Can Xen experts define a new part on Wiki about Xen developing for beginners? I mean is something like "
> > kernelnewbies.org" but for Xen. For example, say to users which programming languages are necessary, which book is good for learning those languages and which part of Xen codes are good for start.
> > I know it may funny for someone here or smeone consider the questions like it as Spam but be sure it help begginers and other users for improve Xen and get involved to project.
> > I like to hear developers idea.
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Xen-devel mailing list
> > Xen-devel@lists.xen.org
> > https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As a xennewby I definitely support your idea!

If you look at:
https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Outreach_Program_Projects

does that help in the selection? Granted it could be expanded, but that
brings another question (Lars, Cc-ing you for this): There are some
projects, like:
 a) Re-implement the physical CPU hotplug capability in 'xen-hptool' in
   libxl, or
 b) Re-implement xen-livepatch inside libxl

which can take, oh, a couple of weeks to for newbies to get done? But
those wouldn't neccessarily fit in the Outreach Program Projects?
Perhaps we should group them together as 'starter project' or such?

The language part is simple, it is C.

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Geza
> 
> 
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> Xen-devel@lists.xen.org
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Re: Define a new Wiki part for Xen Project.

[Lars Kurth]

On 18/11/2016 15:38, "Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 04:22:07PM +0100, Geza Gemes wrote:
>> On 11/18/2016 11:25 AM, Jason Long wrote:
>> > Hello developers.
>> > I have a request and please let me know your idea.
>> > Can Xen experts define a new part on Wiki about Xen developing for
>>beginners? I mean is something like "
>> > kernelnewbies.org" but for Xen. For example, say to users which
>>programming languages are necessary, which book is good for learning
>>those languages and which part of Xen codes are good for start.
>> > I know it may funny for someone here or smeone consider the questions
>>like it as Spam but be sure it help begginers and other users for
>>improve Xen and get involved to project.
>> > I like to hear developers idea.
>> > 
>> > Thank you.
>> > 
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Xen-devel mailing list
>> > Xen-devel@lists.xen.org
>> > https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> As a xennewby I definitely support your idea!
>
>If you look at:
>https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Outreach_Program_Projects
>
>does that help in the selection? Granted it could be expanded, but that
>brings another question (Lars, Cc-ing you for this): There are some
>projects, like:
> a) Re-implement the physical CPU hotplug capability in 'xen-hptool' in
>   libxl, or
> b) Re-implement xen-livepatch inside libxl
>
>which can take, oh, a couple of weeks to for newbies to get done? But
>those wouldn't neccessarily fit in the Outreach Program Projects?
>Perhaps we should group them together as 'starter project' or such?
>
>The language part is simple, it is C.

I don't think it's quite the right thing and what Geze is looking for. I
think it's more about, which books, where do you find API docs/design
docs/..., how to build/test/troubleshoot, etc. - I think we have a lot of
this all over the place with a few gaps.

I think the challenge is that what we write down would need to make sense
for a newbie. So it would have to be
A) written by someone else - tested by a newbie
B) written by someone who is just getting started, e.g. someone starting
on Outreachy

@George: this could be something which may be worthwhile discussing with
Rojas

Lars

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Re: Define a new Wiki part for Xen Project.

[Geza Gemes]

On 11/18/2016 04:54 PM, Lars Kurth wrote:
>
> On 18/11/2016 15:38, "Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 04:22:07PM +0100, Geza Gemes wrote:
>>> On 11/18/2016 11:25 AM, Jason Long wrote:
>>>> Hello developers.
>>>> I have a request and please let me know your idea.
>>>> Can Xen experts define a new part on Wiki about Xen developing for
>>> beginners? I mean is something like "
>>>> kernelnewbies.org" but for Xen. For example, say to users which
>>> programming languages are necessary, which book is good for learning
>>> those languages and which part of Xen codes are good for start.
>>>> I know it may funny for someone here or smeone consider the questions
>>> like it as Spam but be sure it help begginers and other users for
>>> improve Xen and get involved to project.
>>>> I like to hear developers idea.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Xen-devel mailing list
>>>> Xen-devel@lists.xen.org
>>>> https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As a xennewby I definitely support your idea!
>> If you look at:
>> https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Outreach_Program_Projects
>>
>> does that help in the selection? Granted it could be expanded, but that
>> brings another question (Lars, Cc-ing you for this): There are some
>> projects, like:
>> a) Re-implement the physical CPU hotplug capability in 'xen-hptool' in
>>    libxl, or
>> b) Re-implement xen-livepatch inside libxl
>>
>> which can take, oh, a couple of weeks to for newbies to get done? But
>> those wouldn't neccessarily fit in the Outreach Program Projects?
>> Perhaps we should group them together as 'starter project' or such?
>>
>> The language part is simple, it is C.
> I don't think it's quite the right thing and what Geze is looking for. I
> think it's more about, which books, where do you find API docs/design
> docs/..., how to build/test/troubleshoot, etc. - I think we have a lot of
> this all over the place with a few gaps.
>
> I think the challenge is that what we write down would need to make sense
> for a newbie. So it would have to be
> A) written by someone else - tested by a newbie
> B) written by someone who is just getting started, e.g. someone starting
> on Outreachy
>
> @George: this could be something which may be worthwhile discussing with
> Rojas
>
> Lars
>
Hi Lars,

I actually like the linked wiki page, what I really miss is some kind of 
architectural description, besides reading the code ,which also a good 
exercise. Currently my main interest is Xen networking performance (saw 
some interesting prototypes made with DPDK and I'm trying to set up some 
proto using grant tables). The other area which looks very interesting 
is the PCI and stubdom area.

Cheers,

Geza


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Re: Define a new Wiki part for Xen Project.

[Dario Faggioli]

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On Fri, 2016-11-18 at 10:25 +0000, Jason Long wrote:
> Hello developers.
> I have a request and please let me know your idea.
> Can Xen experts define a new part on Wiki about Xen developing for
> beginners? I mean is something like "
> kernelnewbies.org" but for Xen. 
>
Yeah, that indeed could be nice.

> For example, say to users which programming languages are necessary,
> which book is good for learning those languages and which part of Xen
> codes are good for start.
>
Well, sure. A full-fledged program like kernelnewbies is way more than
that, and is not easy to put together.

For what it's worth, we already try to participate to programs like
Outreacy and GSOC, but certainly we can improve some of the sections of
our wiki with what you say in mind --e.g., the one(s) when we try to
keep a list of small projects.

I'll try to find some time to look into this and do something.

Thanks for your interest and suggestion.

Regards,
Dario
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Re: Define a new Wiki part for Xen Project.

[Jason Long]

I'm thankful if you working on Xen Wiki more and thinking about interested beginners like us. If you did anything please email me.

Thank you.



On Friday, November 18, 2016 3:16 PM, Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com> wrote:
On Fri, 2016-11-18 at 10:25 +0000, Jason Long wrote:
> Hello developers.
> I have a request and please let me know your idea.
> Can Xen experts define a new part on Wiki about Xen developing for
> beginners? I mean is something like "
> kernelnewbies.org" but for Xen. 
>
Yeah, that indeed could be nice.


> For example, say to users which programming languages are necessary,
> which book is good for learning those languages and which part of Xen
> codes are good for start.
>
Well, sure. A full-fledged program like kernelnewbies is way more than
that, and is not easy to put together.

For what it's worth, we already try to participate to programs like
Outreacy and GSOC, but certainly we can improve some of the sections of
our wiki with what you say in mind --e.g., the one(s) when we try to
keep a list of small projects.

I'll try to find some time to look into this and do something.

Thanks for your interest and suggestion.

Regards,
Dario
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Re: Define a new Wiki part for Xen Project.

[Jason Long]

Thank you.
I'm happy to see more info, but beginners like me need experts guidance. For example, nowadays experts were beginners like us and we need their experiences for improve ourselves. OK, C programming need but which book is recommended. Can you introduce any book that tech software developing?
--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 11/18/16, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@citrix.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Define a new Wiki part for Xen Project.
 To: "Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>, "Geza Gemes" <geza.gemes@gmail.com>, "George Dunlap" <George.Dunlap@citrix.com>
 Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
 Date: Friday, November 18, 2016, 7:54 AM
 
 
 
 On 18/11/2016 15:38, "Konrad Rzeszutek
 Wilk" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
 wrote:
 
 >On
 Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 04:22:07PM +0100, Geza Gemes wrote:
 >> On 11/18/2016 11:25 AM, Jason Long
 wrote:
 >> > Hello developers.
 >> > I have a request and please let
 me know your idea.
 >> > Can Xen
 experts define a new part on Wiki about Xen developing
 for
 >>beginners? I mean is something
 like "
 >> >
 kernelnewbies.org" but for Xen. For example, say to
 users which
 >>programming languages
 are necessary, which book is good for learning
 >>those languages and which part of Xen
 codes are good for start.
 >> > I
 know it may funny for someone here or smeone consider the
 questions
 >>like it as Spam but be
 sure it help begginers and other users for
 >>improve Xen and get involved to
 project.
 >> > I like to hear
 developers idea.
 >> > 
 >> > Thank you.
 >> > 
 >> >
 _______________________________________________
 >> > Xen-devel mailing list
 >> > Xen-devel@lists.xen.org
 >> > https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
 >> 
 >> Hi,
 >> 
 >> As a
 xennewby I definitely support your idea!
 >
 >If you look at:
 >https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Outreach_Program_Projects
 >
 >does that help in the
 selection? Granted it could be expanded, but that
 >brings another question (Lars, Cc-ing you
 for this): There are some
 >projects,
 like:
 > a) Re-implement the physical CPU
 hotplug capability in 'xen-hptool' in
 >   libxl, or
 > b) Re-implement xen-livepatch inside
 libxl
 >
 >which can
 take, oh, a couple of weeks to for newbies to get done?
 But
 >those wouldn't neccessarily fit
 in the Outreach Program Projects?
 >Perhaps we should group them together as
 'starter project' or such?
 >
 >The language part is simple, it is C.
 
 I don't think it's
 quite the right thing and what Geze is looking for. I
 think it's more about, which books, where
 do you find API docs/design
 docs/..., how to
 build/test/troubleshoot, etc. - I think we have a lot of
 this all over the place with a few gaps.
 
 I think the challenge is that
 what we write down would need to make sense
 for a newbie. So it would have to be
 A) written by someone else - tested by a
 newbie
 B) written by someone who is just
 getting started, e.g. someone starting
 on
 Outreachy
 
 @George: this
 could be something which may be worthwhile discussing
 with
 Rojas
 
 Lars
 
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 Xen-devel mailing list
 Xen-devel@lists.xen.org
 https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
 

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Re: Define a new Wiki part for Xen Project.

[Jason Long]

Thank you.
I'm happy to see more info, but beginners like me need experts guidance. For example, nowadays experts were beginners like us and we need their experiences for improve ourselves. OK, C programming need but which book is recommended. Can you introduce any book that tech software developing?
--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 11/18/16, Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@citrix.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Define a new Wiki part for Xen Project.
 To: "Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>, "Geza Gemes" <geza.gemes@gmail.com>, "George Dunlap" <George.Dunlap@citrix.com>
 Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
 Date: Friday, November 18, 2016, 7:54 AM
 
 
 
 On 18/11/2016 15:38, "Konrad Rzeszutek
 Wilk" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
 wrote:
 
 >On
 Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 04:22:07PM +0100, Geza Gemes wrote:
 >> On 11/18/2016 11:25 AM, Jason Long
 wrote:
 >> > Hello developers.
 >> > I have a request and please let
 me know your idea.
 >> > Can Xen
 experts define a new part on Wiki about Xen developing
 for
 >>beginners? I mean is something
 like "
 >> >
 kernelnewbies.org" but for Xen. For example, say to
 users which
 >>programming languages
 are necessary, which book is good for learning
 >>those languages and which part of Xen
 codes are good for start.
 >> > I
 know it may funny for someone here or smeone consider the
 questions
 >>like it as Spam but be
 sure it help begginers and other users for
 >>improve Xen and get involved to
 project.
 >> > I like to hear
 developers idea.
 >> > 
 >> > Thank you.
 >> > 
 >> >
 _______________________________________________
 >> > Xen-devel mailing list
 >> > Xen-devel@lists.xen.org
 >> > https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
 >> 
 >> Hi,
 >> 
 >> As a
 xennewby I definitely support your idea!
 >
 >If you look at:
 >https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Outreach_Program_Projects
 >
 >does that help in the
 selection? Granted it could be expanded, but that
 >brings another question (Lars, Cc-ing you
 for this): There are some
 >projects,
 like:
 > a) Re-implement the physical CPU
 hotplug capability in 'xen-hptool' in
 >   libxl, or
 > b) Re-implement xen-livepatch inside
 libxl
 >
 >which can
 take, oh, a couple of weeks to for newbies to get done?
 But
 >those wouldn't neccessarily fit
 in the Outreach Program Projects?
 >Perhaps we should group them together as
 'starter project' or such?
 >
 >The language part is simple, it is C.
 
 I don't think it's
 quite the right thing and what Geze is looking for. I
 think it's more about, which books, where
 do you find API docs/design
 docs/..., how to
 build/test/troubleshoot, etc. - I think we have a lot of
 this all over the place with a few gaps.
 
 I think the challenge is that
 what we write down would need to make sense
 for a newbie. So it would have to be
 A) written by someone else - tested by a
 newbie
 B) written by someone who is just
 getting started, e.g. someone starting
 on
 Outreachy
 
 @George: this
 could be something which may be worthwhile discussing
 with
 Rojas
 
 Lars
 
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 Xen-devel mailing list
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Re: Define a new Wiki part for Xen Project.

[Jason Long]

Thank you.
If you find amy book or other useful information then inform me.
--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 11/18/16, Geza Gemes <geza.gemes@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Define a new Wiki part for Xen Project.
 To: xen-devel@lists.xen.org
 Date: Friday, November 18, 2016, 7:22 AM
 
 On 11/18/2016 11:25 AM,
 Jason Long wrote:
 > Hello developers.
 > I have a request and please let me know
 your idea.
 > Can Xen experts define a new
 part on Wiki about Xen developing for beginners? I mean is
 something like "
 >
 kernelnewbies.org" but for Xen. For example, say to
 users which programming languages are necessary, which book
 is good for learning those languages and which part of Xen
 codes are good for start.
 > I know it may
 funny for someone here or smeone consider the questions like
 it as Spam but be sure it help begginers and other users for
 improve Xen and get involved to project.
 > I like to hear developers idea.
 >
 > Thank you.
 >
 >
 _______________________________________________
 > Xen-devel mailing list
 > Xen-devel@lists.xen.org
 > https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
 
 Hi,
 
 As a xennewby I definitely support your
 idea!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Geza
 
 
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Re: Define a new Wiki part for Xen Project.

[Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk]

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 08:45:44PM +0000, Jason Long wrote:
> Thank you.
> If you find amy book or other useful information then inform me.

About C?

I would recommend The C Programming Language by 
Brian W. Kernighan, Dennis M. Ritchie

> --------------------------------------------
> On Fri, 11/18/16, Geza Gemes <geza.gemes@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Define a new Wiki part for Xen Project.
>  To: xen-devel@lists.xen.org
>  Date: Friday, November 18, 2016, 7:22 AM
>  
>  On 11/18/2016 11:25 AM,
>  Jason Long wrote:
>  > Hello developers.
>  > I have a request and please let me know
>  your idea.
>  > Can Xen experts define a new
>  part on Wiki about Xen developing for beginners? I mean is
>  something like "
>  >
>  kernelnewbies.org" but for Xen. For example, say to
>  users which programming languages are necessary, which book
>  is good for learning those languages and which part of Xen
>  codes are good for start.
>  > I know it may
>  funny for someone here or smeone consider the questions like
>  it as Spam but be sure it help begginers and other users for
>  improve Xen and get involved to project.
>  > I like to hear developers idea.
>  >
>  > Thank you.
>  >
>  >
>  _______________________________________________
>  > Xen-devel mailing list
>  > Xen-devel@lists.xen.org
>  > https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
>  
>  Hi,
>  
>  As a xennewby I definitely support your
>  idea!
>  
>  Cheers,
>  
>  Geza
>  
>  
>  _______________________________________________
>  Xen-devel mailing list
>  Xen-devel@lists.xen.org
>  https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
>  
> 
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Re: Define a new Wiki part for Xen Project.

[Geza Gemes]

On 11/18/2016 10:41 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 08:45:44PM +0000, Jason Long wrote:
>> Thank you.
>> If you find amy book or other useful information then inform me.
> About C?
>
> I would recommend The C Programming Language by
> Brian W. Kernighan, Dennis M. Ritchie
What I think is missing or just the pointers to it is an explanation of 
the interaction between parts of the ecosystem, like 
pci-device<>xen-netback<>xen-netfront, where is data copied, where it is 
mapped, what is the role of grant tables, what are the different parts 
of the source-code (e.g. the stubdom folder) are supposed to be good for.

Cheers,

Geza
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Fri, 11/18/16, Geza Gemes <geza.gemes@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>   Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Define a new Wiki part for Xen Project.
>>   To: xen-devel@lists.xen.org
>>   Date: Friday, November 18, 2016, 7:22 AM
>>   
>>   On 11/18/2016 11:25 AM,
>>   Jason Long wrote:
>>   > Hello developers.
>>   > I have a request and please let me know
>>   your idea.
>>   > Can Xen experts define a new
>>   part on Wiki about Xen developing for beginners? I mean is
>>   something like "
>>   >
>>   kernelnewbies.org" but for Xen. For example, say to
>>   users which programming languages are necessary, which book
>>   is good for learning those languages and which part of Xen
>>   codes are good for start.
>>   > I know it may
>>   funny for someone here or smeone consider the questions like
>>   it as Spam but be sure it help begginers and other users for
>>   improve Xen and get involved to project.
>>   > I like to hear developers idea.
>>   >
>>   > Thank you.
>>   >
>>   >
>>   _______________________________________________
>>   > Xen-devel mailing list
>>   > Xen-devel@lists.xen.org
>>   > https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
>>   
>>   Hi,
>>   
>>   As a xennewby I definitely support your
>>   idea!
>>   
>>   Cheers,
>>   
>>   Geza
>>   
>>   
>>   _______________________________________________
>>   Xen-devel mailing list
>>   Xen-devel@lists.xen.org
>>   https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
>>   
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Re: Define a new Wiki part for Xen Project.

[Jason Long]

I guess it is an old book!!! Is it OK in your idea? just C Programming needed?



On Friday, November 18, 2016 1:41 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 08:45:44PM +0000, Jason Long wrote:
> Thank you.
> If you find amy book or other useful information then inform me.

About C?

I would recommend The C Programming Language by 
Brian W. Kernighan, Dennis M. Ritchie

> --------------------------------------------
> On Fri, 11/18/16, Geza Gemes <geza.gemes@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Define a new Wiki part for Xen Project.
>  To: xen-devel@lists.xen.org
>  Date: Friday, November 18, 2016, 7:22 AM
>  
>  On 11/18/2016 11:25 AM,
>  Jason Long wrote:
>  > Hello developers.
>  > I have a request and please let me know
>  your idea.
>  > Can Xen experts define a new
>  part on Wiki about Xen developing for beginners? I mean is
>  something like "
>  >
>  kernelnewbies.org" but for Xen. For example, say to
>  users which programming languages are necessary, which book
>  is good for learning those languages and which part of Xen
>  codes are good for start.
>  > I know it may
>  funny for someone here or smeone consider the questions like
>  it as Spam but be sure it help begginers and other users for
>  improve Xen and get involved to project.
>  > I like to hear developers idea.
>  >
>  > Thank you.
>  >
>  >
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>  Hi,
>  
>  As a xennewby I definitely support your
>  idea!
>  
>  Cheers,

>  
>  Geza
>  
>  
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