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From: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>
To: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
Cc: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Vasiliy Tolstov <v.tolstov@selfip.ru>,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Subject: Re: reboot dom0 without vps downtime
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 10:25:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170317102521.jrl7qlba33d6dgcl@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51a486a4-a549-c1fb-b4b6-0fa6e2656f79@suse.com>

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 09:56:44AM +0100, Juergen Gross wrote:
> On 17/03/17 09:49, Vasiliy Tolstov wrote:
> > 2017-03-17 11:47 GMT+03:00 Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>:
> >> (Dropping xen-users)
> >>
> >> I have plans for the future, but I'm not sure when I'll have enough
> >> time for it.
> >>
> >> Any help on this topic is welcome, of course!
> >>
> >> I think (at least) the following features are missing:
> >>
> >> - capability to specify a (new) dom0 kernel and initrd for reboot of
> >>   dom0: both must be transferred to the hypervisor in a memory buffer
> >>   which will be used for the reboot
> >> - dom0 reboot capability in hypervisor using the kernel and initrd
> >>   from the memory buffer, without destroying other domains
> >> - dom0 has to check for presence of xenstore-stubdom before trying to
> >>   create it. In case xenstore is already existing connect to it and
> >>   re-establish needed connections to other domains, don't auto-start
> >>   any other domains in this case
> >>
> >> I'm sure there are lots of other little pieces missing, but those can
> >> be addressed after above main features are available.
> > 
> > 
> > What about qemu processes (i'm interesting on hvm domains pvh or how
> > they naming now)
> 
> For pvh domains qemu processes aren't mandatory. All mandatory backends
> like disk and net must live in stubdoms for dom0 being rebootable, of
> course.
> 

stubdoms -> backend domains to be precise.  I think you can use any
normal OS for that purpose.

(I realise people might be using stubdom with slightly different
meanings, but to me it mostly means unikernel-like domains, because
that's how it is done at the moment in Xen. The definition of stubdom is
up for debate, of course).

Wei.

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      reply	other threads:[~2017-03-17 10:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-17  7:09 reboot dom0 without vps downtime Vasiliy Tolstov
2017-03-17  8:21 ` Juergen Gross
2017-03-17  8:23   ` Vasiliy Tolstov
2017-03-17  8:47     ` Juergen Gross
2017-03-17  8:49       ` Vasiliy Tolstov
2017-03-17  8:56         ` Juergen Gross
2017-03-17 10:25           ` Wei Liu [this message]

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