From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Bruno Alvisio <bruno.alvisio@gmail.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: VM Live Migration with Local Storage
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:57:29 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170620175729.GG12929@char.us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADNMjED0sWp3-uVddNAbG7Ar2iispsr6qEzBsvUTY9GmW7m3JA@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 08:16:04PM -0700, Bruno Alvisio wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I think it would be beneficial to add local disk migration feature for
> ‘blkback' backend since it is one of the mostly used backends. I would like
> to start a discussion about the design of the machinery needed to achieve
> this feature.
>
> ===========================
> Objective
> Add a feature to migrate VMs that have local storage and use the blkback
> iface.
> ===========================
>
> ===========================
> User Interface
> Add a cmd line option in “xl migrate” command to specify if local disks
> need to be copied to the destination node.
> ===========================
>
> ===========================
> Design
>
> 1. As part of the libxl_domain_suspend, the “disk mirroring machinery”
> starts an asynchronous job that copies the disks blocks from source to the
> destination.
> 2. The protocol to copy the disks should resemble the one used for
> memory copy:
>
>
> - Do first initial copy of the disk.
> - Check of sectors that have been written since copy started. For this,
> the blkback driver should be aware that migration of disk is happening and
> in this case forward the write request to the “migration machinery” so that
> a record of dirty blocks are logged.
> - Migration machinery copies “dirty” blocks until convergence.
> - Duplicate all the disk writes/reads to both disks in source and
> destinations node while VM is being suspended.
>
>
> Block Diagram
>
> +—------+
> | VM |
> +-------+
> |
> | I/O Write
> |
> V
> +----------+ +-----------+ +-------------+
> | blkback | ----> | Source | sectors Stream | Destination |
> +----------+ | mirror |------------------>| mirror |
> | | machinery | I/O Writes | machinery |
> | +-----------+ +-------------+
> | |
> | |
> | To I/O block layer |
> | |
> V V
> +----------+ +-------------+
> | disk | | Mirrored |
> +----------+ | Disk |
> +-------------+
>
>
> ======================
> Initial Questions
>
> 1. Is it possible to leverage the current design of QEMU for drive
> mirroring for Xen?
Yes. It has qdisk which implement blkback interface.
> 2. What is the best place to implement this protocol? As part of Xen or
> the kernel?
QEMU
> 3. Is it possible to use the same stream currently used for migrating
> the memory to also migrate the disk blocks?
Probably.
>
>
> Any guidance/feedback for a more specific design is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bruno
>
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 5:00 AM, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Bruno
> >
> > Thanks for your interest.
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 10:34:45AM -0800, Bruno Alvisio wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I have been to doing some research and as far as I know XEN supports
> > > Live Migration
> > > of VMs that only have shared storage. (i.e. iSCSI) If the VM has been
> > > booted with local storage it cannot be live migrated.
> > > QEMU seems to support live migration with local storage (I have tested
> > using
> > > 'virsh migrate with the '--storage-copy-all' option)
> > >
> > > I am wondering if this still true in the latest XEN release. Are there
> > plans
> > > to add this functionality in future releases? I would be interested in
> > > contributing to the Xen Project by adding this functionality.
> > >
> >
> > No plan at the moment.
> >
> > Xen supports a wide variety of disk backends. QEMU is one of them. The
> > others are blktap (not upstreamed yet) and in-kernel blkback. The latter
> > two don't have the capability to copy local storage to the remote end.
> >
> > That said, I think it would be valuable to have such capability for QEMU
> > backed disks. We also need to design the machinery so that other
> > backends can be made to do the same thing in the future.
> >
> > If you want to undertake this project, I suggest you setup a Xen system,
> > read xl / libxl source code under tools directory and understand how
> > everything is put together. Reading source code could be daunting at
> > times, so don't hesitate to ask for pointers. After you have the big
> > picture in mind, we can then discuss how to implement the functionality
> > on xen-devel.
> >
> > Does this sound good to you?
> >
> > Wei.
> >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bruno
> >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Xen-devel mailing list
> > > Xen-devel@lists.xen.org
> > > https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
> >
> >
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Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-21 18:34 VM Live Migration with Local Storage Bruno Alvisio
2017-02-22 13:00 ` Wei Liu
[not found] ` <CADNMjECBAKRX5muM2mn31RdC1vcPt-vUQ9sqAWt8QSHr+GXj7g@mail.gmail.com>
2017-06-12 3:16 ` Fwd: " Bruno Alvisio
2017-06-20 17:57 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2017-06-21 10:03 ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-20 18:36 ` Igor Druzhinin
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