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From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>
Cc: Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Tamas K Lengyel <tamas.lengyel@zentific.com>,
	Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>,
	Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>, Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	Paul Durrant <paul.durrant@citrix.com>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Anthony Perard <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Roger Pau Monne <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 11:23:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171102152348.GJ22924@char.us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9faf3838-d814-81c6-18de-a78c77059784@citrix.com>

On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 10:46:20AM +0000, George Dunlap wrote:
> On 11/01/2017 05:10 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 04:22:38PM +0100, George Dunlap wrote:
> >> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
> >> <konrad.wilk@oracle.com> wrote:
> >>>> +### Soft-reset for PV guests
> >>>
> >>> s/PV/HVM/
> >>
> >> Is it?  I thought this was for RHEL 5 PV guests to be able to do crash kernels.
> >>
> >>>> +### Transcendent Memory
> >>>> +
> >>>> +    Status: Experimental
> >>>> +
> >>>> +[XXX Add description]
> >>>
> >>> Guests with tmem drivers autoballoon memory out allowing a fluid
> >>> and dynamic memory allocation - in effect memory overcommit without
> >>> the need to swap. Only works with Linux guests (as it requires
> >>> OS drivers).
> >>
> >> But autoballooning doesn't require any support in Xen, right?  I
> >> thought the TMEM support in Xen was more about the trancendent memory
> >> backends.
> > 
> > frontends you mean? That is Linux guests when compiled with XEN_TMEM will
> > balloon down (using the self-shrinker) to using the normal balloon code
> > (XENMEM_decrease_reservation, XENMEM_populate_physmap) to make the
> > guest smaller. Then the Linux code starts hitting the case where it starts
> > swapping memory out - and that is where the tmem comes in and the
> > pages are swapped out to the hypervisor.
> 
> Right -- so TMEM itself actually consists of this ephemeral and
> non-ephemeral memory pools.  Autoballooning is just a trick to get Linux
> to put the least-used pages into one of the pools.

<nods>
> 
> How about this:
> 
> ---
> Transcendent Memory (tmem) allows the creation of hypervisor memory
> pools which guests can use to store memory rather than caching in its
> own memory or swapping to disk.  Having these in the hypervisor can
> allow more efficient aggregate use of memory across VMs.
> ---

<purrs> Perfect!
> 
>  -George

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-02 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-11 17:01 [PATCH RFC v2] Add SUPPORT.md George Dunlap
2017-09-11 17:53 ` Andrew Cooper
2017-09-12  9:48   ` Jan Beulich
2017-09-12  9:49   ` Wei Liu
2017-10-23 16:22   ` George Dunlap
2017-10-23 17:55     ` Andrew Cooper
2017-10-23 20:57       ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-10-24 10:27       ` George Dunlap
2017-10-24 11:42         ` Andrew Cooper
2017-10-25 10:59           ` George Dunlap
2017-10-25 11:30             ` Andrew Cooper
2017-10-26  9:19               ` Jan Beulich
2017-10-26 10:59                 ` Andrew Cooper
2017-10-24 10:29       ` Julien Grall
2017-09-12  5:09 ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-12 10:39 ` Roger Pau Monné
2017-09-12 19:52   ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-09-12 20:09     ` Julien Grall
2017-11-01 17:01     ` George Dunlap
2017-11-01 16:57   ` George Dunlap
2017-09-12 13:14 ` George Dunlap
2017-09-12 15:35 ` Rich Persaud
2017-10-09 13:53   ` Lars Kurth
2017-10-24 14:00   ` George Dunlap
2017-09-15 14:51 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-10-24 15:22   ` George Dunlap
2017-11-01 17:10     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-11-02 10:46       ` George Dunlap
2017-11-02 15:23         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2017-09-25 23:10 ` Stefano Stabellini
2017-09-26  7:12   ` Dario Faggioli
2017-09-27 12:57     ` Robert VanVossen
2017-09-27 13:48       ` Dario Faggioli
2017-10-09 14:14       ` Lars Kurth
2017-10-27 15:09         ` NathanStuder
2017-11-02 17:34           ` George Dunlap
2017-11-02 20:42             ` NathanStuder
2017-09-26 10:34   ` George Dunlap

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