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From: Ritu kaur <ritu.kaur.us@gmail.com>
To: djmagee@mageenet.net
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Daniel Stodden <Daniel.Stodden@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: Shared memory and event channel
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 11:26:17 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <29b32d341002231126h703334b2u5af6ab9b2bbf00fc@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EECC125FCE18E740AF561189E126028502AA24@mnetexch2.adamapps.host>


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Hi,

I have tried proxy client and server model with server running in dom0 and
client in domU. It intercepts ioctls and passes it to dom0 and able to read
registers. This is done via socket calls. However, Citrix doesn't allow
socket calls into dom0 and I had to tweak firewall setting(basically I
cleared everything for testing purposes).

Need a clarification, using pci passthrough I believe it remove access to
device from dom0 and attaches the device to a domU and from then on can only
be accessed via that domU or is it possible to have dom0 and a single domU
gain access to device using pci passthrough? I guess not, thought of
checking.

Thanks


On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, <djmagee@mageenet.net> wrote:

>  What is the data you’re trying to access in the device registers?  If
> it’s statistics, which you gave as an example, then why would a domain want
> to read statistics for a card that shared by many other guests, of which it
> has no knowledge?  In fact, I’m struggling to think of any situation where
> data applicable to the physical card that’s carrying packets for every guest
> on the box could be useable by one single guest.
>
>
>
> Can’t you just write a daemon in dom0 that reads the data you’re interested
> in and makes it available to the domUs via a simple network service?
>
>
>
> *From:* xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:
> xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com] *On Behalf Of *Ritu kaur
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:53 AM
> *To:* Ian Campbell
> *Cc:* xen-devel@lists.xensource.com; Daniel Stodden; Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
> *Subject:* Re: [Xen-devel] Shared memory and event channel
>
>
>
> Hi Ian,
>
> Thanks for your inputs, I skimmed through Intel 82576 SR-IOV document and
> it looks like it needs hardware support and I don't think our hardware has
> it(will double check with our team). I believe currently there is no good
> solution other than using pci passthrough(with a single domU access). I just
> want to bring one thing and I hope it was not missed out from my earlier
> email i.e
>
> "The NIC registers are memory mapped, can I take "machine memory address
> space(which is in dom0)" and remap it to domU's such that I can get multiple
> domU access. "
>
> The above soln is just a thought, not sure it's feasible.
>
> Thanks
>
>  On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 14:47 +0000, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 09:38:26AM +0000, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 22:16 +0000, Ritu kaur wrote:
> > > >
> > > > All I need to  is access NIC registers via domU's(network controller
> > > > will still be working normally). Using PCI passthrough solves the
> > > > problem for a domU, however, it doesn't solve when multiple domU's
> > > > wanting to read NIC registers(ex. statistics).
> > >
> > > Direct access to hardware registers and availability of the device to
> > > multiple guest domains are mutually exclusive configurations under Xen
> > > (in the absence of additional technologies such as SR-IOV).
> > >
> > > The paravirtual front and back devices contain no hardware specific
> > > functionality, in this configuration all hardware specific knowledge is
> > > contained in the driver in domain 0. Guests use regular L2 or L3
> > > mechanisms such as bridging, NAT or routing to obtain a path to the
> > > physical hardware but they are never aware of that physical hardware.
> > >
> > > PCI passthrough allows a guest direct access to a PCI device but this
> is
> > > obviously incompatible with access from multiple guests (again, unless
> > > you have SR-IOV or something similar)
> >
> > What if the netback was set be able to work in guest mode? This way you
> > could export it out to the guests?
>
> Like a driver domain model? That would work (I think) but is still not
> the same as having multiple domain's with access to the physical
> registers. netback in a guest works in exactly the same as how it works
> for domain 0.
>
> Ian.
>
>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-23 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <29b32d341002211058l7e283336pa4fdfd0dc0b7124b@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <1266787199.24577.18.camel@agari.van.xensource.com>
2010-02-21 23:33   ` Shared memory and event channel Ritu kaur
2010-02-22  7:55     ` Daniel Stodden
2010-02-22 17:36       ` Ritu kaur
2010-02-22 21:34         ` Daniel Stodden
2010-02-22 22:16           ` Ritu kaur
2010-02-23  9:38             ` Ian Campbell
2010-02-23 14:47               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-02-23 15:42                 ` Ian Campbell
2010-02-23 15:53                   ` Ritu kaur
2010-02-23 17:42                     ` djmagee
2010-02-23 19:26                       ` Ritu kaur [this message]
2010-02-24  9:38                         ` Ian Campbell
2007-11-19  7:59 shared " Amit Singh
2007-11-28  1:45 ` Mark Williamson
2007-12-21  8:39   ` tgh
2007-12-21 12:54     ` Keir Fraser

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