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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
Cc: Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] x86: use invpcid to do global flushing
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 12:57:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4359ed8b-6b6f-66fb-564a-cd86879a85b5@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5A9D4C1A02000078001AE816@prv-mh.provo.novell.com>

On 05/03/18 12:54, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 05.03.18 at 13:35, <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>> On 05/03/18 12:06, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>> On 05/03/18 12:50, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>>> On 05/03/18 11:31, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 05.03.18 at 10:50, <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>
>>>>> No description at all? I'd at least expect mention of how much of a
>>>>> performance win this is (for whichever hardware you happen to
>>>>> know that).
>>>>>
>>>>>> @@ -120,11 +121,24 @@ unsigned int flush_area_local(const void *va, unsigned 
>> int flags)
>>>>>>          else
>>>>>>          {
>>>>>>              u32 t = pre_flush();
>>>>>> -            unsigned long cr4 = read_cr4();
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> -            write_cr4(cr4 & ~X86_CR4_PGE);
>>>>>> -            barrier();
>>>>>> -            write_cr4(cr4);
>>>>>> +            if ( !cpu_has_invpcid )
>>>>>> +            {
>>>>>> +                unsigned long cr4 = read_cr4();
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +                write_cr4(cr4 & ~X86_CR4_PGE);
>>>>>> +                barrier();
>>>>>> +                write_cr4(cr4);
>>>>>> +            }
>>>>>> +            else
>>>>>> +            {
>>>>>> +                /*
>>>>>> +                 * Using invpcid to flush all mappings works
>>>>>> +                 * regardless of whether PCID is enabled or not.
>>>>>> +                 * It is faster than read-modify-write CR4.
>>>>>> +                 */
>>>> Its a cr4 double write, rather than RMW.  We read from a cached value
>>>> anyway, not from hardware.
>>>>
>>>>>> +                invpcid_flush_all();
>>>>>> +            }
>>>>> The reference to PCID in the comment isn't really meaningful imo.
>>>>> PCID and INVPCID are independent features anyway. Also please
>>>>> don't create artificially short comment lines.
>>>>>
>>>>> Generally I also think such if() conditions would better be inverted:
>>>>> There's no reason to make the legacy form look as if it was
>>>>> preferred.
>>>>>
>>>>> And then - what about the use in write_cr3() and the two uses that
>>>>> remain after my XPTI follow-up series (which sadly looks to be stuck
>>>>> for whatever reason), or (without that series) the write_cr3
>>>>> assembler macro?
>>>> I don't think it is safe to use invpcid when we're also switching cr3. 
>>>> The new cr3 may have global pages with different translations, as they
>>>> are guest controlled.
>>> Can you elaborate a little bit more?
>>>
>>> How can a guest control any hypervisor mappings? As long as the new cr3
>>> is being loaded before the TLB is flushed via INVPCID I can't see how
>>> a problem should occur.
>>>
>>> In fact my series does exactly what Jan is asking above: it is replacing
>>> the remaining cr4 based TLB flushing by INVPCID if possible. So in case
>>> there is a flaw in my design please tell me.
>> At the moment, we have guest and hypervisor controlled global mappings.
>>
>> The current switch is:
>> cr4 &= ~PGE;
>> cr3 = new_cr3;
>> cr4 |= PGE;
>>
>> which means that all global mappings are flushed by the first action,
>> and no new global mappings can come into existence.  We then switch to
>> the new cr3 (again with global fully disabled), then allow global
>> mappings to come back into existence.
>>
>> With the invpcid route, we switch via:
>>
>> cr3 = new_cr3;
>> invpcid all+global;
>>
>> This has a race window where global mappings are active, and could
>> mismatch what is in cr3.  This yields #MC on at least some hardware, and
>> is specified to have undefined behaviour. 
> Oh, right, this would be okay only without what used to be named
> USER_MAPPINGS_ARE_GLOBAL (and what is now implied).

When we start using PCID for user mappings, then we don't need them to
be global, at which point we can require/expect that the only global
mappings are hypervisor ones which we expect to remain correct across a
write to cr3.  However, if we do this, then we need to use a bit other
than PAGE_GLOBAL to signify guest user mappings.

I think this is doable, but I don't think it is going to be trivial to
get correct.

~Andrew

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-05 12:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-05  9:50 [PATCH 0/2] Use invpcid Wei Liu
2018-03-05  9:50 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86: report if PCID and INVPCID are supported Wei Liu
2018-03-05  9:51   ` Juergen Gross
2018-03-05 11:20   ` Jan Beulich
2018-03-05 11:31     ` Wei Liu
2018-03-05 11:48       ` Andrew Cooper
     [not found]   ` <5A9D362002000078001AE74F@suse.com>
2018-03-05 11:43     ` Juergen Gross
2018-03-05 12:37       ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]       ` <5A9D482202000078001AE7ED@suse.com>
2018-03-05 12:49         ` Juergen Gross
2018-03-05 12:57           ` Jan Beulich
2018-03-05 13:26             ` Wei Liu
2018-03-05  9:50 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86: use invpcid to do global flushing Wei Liu
2018-03-05  9:52   ` Juergen Gross
2018-03-05 11:31   ` Jan Beulich
2018-03-05 11:50     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-03-05 12:06       ` Juergen Gross
2018-03-05 12:35         ` Andrew Cooper
2018-03-05 12:54           ` Jan Beulich
2018-03-05 12:57             ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2018-03-05 13:11               ` Juergen Gross
2018-03-05 13:24                 ` Jan Beulich
2018-03-05 13:31                   ` Wei Liu
2018-03-05 13:40                     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-03-05 13:44                     ` Jan Beulich
2018-03-06  7:10           ` Juergen Gross
2018-03-09 15:29   ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]   ` <5AA2B67302000078001B0567@suse.com>
2018-03-09 18:05     ` Juergen Gross
2018-03-12 12:59       ` Jan Beulich
2018-03-12 13:10         ` Juergen Gross
2018-03-12 13:13           ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]           ` <5AA67CEF0200007800129C5D@suse.com>
2018-03-12 13:14             ` Juergen Gross
2018-03-13  8:07           ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]           ` <5AA794B402000078001B0CC7@suse.com>
2018-03-13  9:27             ` Juergen Gross
2018-03-13  9:35               ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]               ` <5AA7A97702000078001B0D63@suse.com>
2018-03-13  9:48                 ` Juergen Gross
2018-03-13 10:22                   ` Jan Beulich
2018-03-13 10:26                     ` Andrew Cooper

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