From: Weidong Han <weidong.han@intel.com>
To: Keir Fraser <keir.fraser@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: Sander Eikelenboom <linux@eikelenboom.it>,
"Cihula, Joseph" <joseph.cihula@intel.com>,
Noboru Iwamatsu <n_iwamatsu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] VT-d: improve RMRR validity checking
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:12:27 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B59098B.6000108@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C77E162B.6FE6%keir.fraser@eu.citrix.com>
Keir Fraser wrote:
> If we want to keep iommu=1 as default, then it is unacceptable to fail to
> boot on a fairly wide range of modern systems. We have to warn-and-disable,
> partially or completely, unless iommu=force is specified. Or we need to
> revert to iommu=0 as the default.
>
> What do you think, Weidong?
>
Yes. I agree to warn-and-disable for these BIOS issues, and consider
security more when iommu=force. Therefore I will implement a patch based
on Nororu's patch.
Regards,
Weidong
> -- Keir
>
> On 21/01/2010 14:17, "Sander Eikelenboom" <linux@eikelenboom.it> wrote:
>
>
>> Hello Weidong,
>>
>> The problem is most vendor's just don't fix it and ignore the problem
>> completely.
>> Most often hiding them selves behind: come back when it's a problem with
>> Microsoft Windows, that the only single thing we support (and no other
>> software, so no vmware, no xen, no linux, perhaps even no hypervisor)
>> Well I don't know if the virtual pc in windows 7 supports an iommu now, but it
>> didn't in the past as far as i know, so any complain bounces off, and there it
>> all seems to end for them.
>>
>> Besides that i don't know if they do know what the problems with there
>> implementation in BIOS is when someone reports it.
>> I think some behind the scenes pressure from Intel to vendors might help to
>> solve some of them.
>> (my Q35 chipset, "Intel V-PRO" marketed motherboard (so much for that) also
>> suffers RMRR problem when another graphics card is inserted which switches off
>> the IGD).
>>
>> Although i think in my case your patch will work around that for me. Perhaps a
>> third option is needed, which does all the workarounds possible and warns
>> about potential security problem when requested ?
>>
>> --
>> Sander
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thursday, January 21, 2010, 1:46:39 PM, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Noboru Iwamatsu wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Weidong,
>>>>
>>>> I re-send the DRHD-fix patch.
>>>>
>>>> If DRHD does not have existent devices, ignore it.
>>>> If DRHD has both existent and non-existent devices, consider it invalid
>>>> and not register.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Although you patch workarounds your buggy BIOS, but we still need to
>>> enable it for security purpose as I mentioned in previous mail. We
>>> needn't workaround / fix all BIOS issues in software. I think security
>>> is more important for this specific BIOS issue. Did you report the BIOS
>>> issue to your OEM vendor? maybe it's better to get it fixed in BIOS.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Weidong
>>>
>>>> According to this patch and yours, my machine successfully booted
>>>> with vt-d enabled.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Noboru Iwamatsu <n_iwamatsu@jp.fujitsu.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Keir Fraser wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21/01/2010 10:19, "Weidong Han" <weidong.han@intel.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry this is typo.
>>>>>>>> I mean:
>>>>>>>> So, I think RMRR that has no-existent device is "invalid"
>>>>>>>> and whole RMRR should be ignored.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> looks reasonable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keir, I Acks Noboru's rmrr patch. Or do you want us to merge them to one
>>>>>>> patch?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Merge them up, re-send with both sign-off and acked-by all in one email.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Keir
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, I disagree with Noboru after thinking it again. If the RMRR has
>>>>> both no-existent device and also has existent devices in its scope, we
>>>>> should not ignore it because the existent devices under its scope will
>>>>> be impacted without the RMRR. so I suggest to print a warning instead of
>>>>> ignore it. Attached a patch for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Weidong Han <weidong.han@intel.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-22 2:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-21 2:46 [PATCH] VT-d: improve RMRR validity checking Han, Weidong
2010-01-21 8:25 ` Noboru Iwamatsu
2010-01-21 8:38 ` Han, Weidong
2010-01-21 10:03 ` Noboru Iwamatsu
2010-01-21 10:08 ` Noboru Iwamatsu
2010-01-21 10:19 ` Weidong Han
2010-01-21 10:27 ` Keir Fraser
2010-01-21 10:49 ` Weidong Han
2010-01-21 12:19 ` Noboru Iwamatsu
2010-01-21 12:46 ` Weidong Han
2010-01-21 14:01 ` Keir Fraser
2010-01-21 14:17 ` Sander Eikelenboom
2010-01-21 14:33 ` Keir Fraser
2010-01-22 2:12 ` Weidong Han [this message]
2010-01-22 2:38 ` Noboru Iwamatsu
2010-01-22 2:53 ` Weidong Han
2010-01-22 3:16 ` Noboru Iwamatsu
2010-01-22 8:47 ` Weidong Han
2010-01-22 9:19 ` Sander Eikelenboom
2010-01-22 12:15 ` Weidong Han
2010-01-22 12:32 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-01-23 12:40 ` Weidong Han
2010-01-23 13:08 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-01-23 14:33 ` Sander Eikelenboom
2010-01-23 14:54 ` [PATCH] VT-d: improve RMRR validity checking, documenting boot options Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-01-25 16:40 ` Stephen Spector
2010-01-25 16:58 ` Documentation Xen-hypervisor and Dom0 xen-related boot options (was Re: [PATCH] VT-d: improve RMRR validity checking, documenting boot options) Sander Eikelenboom
2010-01-25 20:56 ` Stephen Spector
2010-01-27 11:33 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-01-25 7:06 ` [PATCH] VT-d: improve RMRR validity checking Noboru Iwamatsu
2010-01-25 7:56 ` Weidong Han
2010-01-25 9:02 ` Sander Eikelenboom
2010-01-25 9:11 ` Weidong Han
2010-01-25 9:22 ` Noboru Iwamatsu
2010-01-25 10:08 ` Weidong Han
2010-01-25 10:45 ` Sander Eikelenboom
2010-01-25 13:43 ` Keir Fraser
2010-01-25 13:57 ` Christian Tramnitz
2010-01-25 14:10 ` Weidong Han
2010-01-26 1:16 ` Noboru Iwamatsu
2010-01-26 5:51 ` Weidong Han
2010-01-26 6:38 ` Noboru Iwamatsu
2010-01-26 6:42 ` Weidong Han
2010-01-25 14:12 ` Weidong Han
2010-01-25 14:13 ` Han, Weidong
2010-03-09 21:39 ` Alex Williamson
2010-03-09 21:30 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-03-09 21:57 ` Alex Williamson
2010-03-09 22:22 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-03-09 23:05 ` Alex Williamson
2010-03-09 23:25 ` Alex Williamson
2010-03-10 2:13 ` Alex Williamson
2010-03-10 2:40 ` Weidong Han
2010-03-10 3:18 ` Alex Williamson
2010-03-10 3:28 ` Weidong Han
2010-03-10 3:37 ` Alex Williamson
2010-03-10 4:25 ` Weidong Han
2010-03-10 4:47 ` Alex Williamson
2010-03-10 7:03 ` Weidong Han
2010-03-10 13:56 ` Alex Williamson
2010-03-10 18:06 ` Alex Williamson
2010-03-11 2:11 ` Weidong Han
2010-03-11 2:32 ` Alex Williamson
2010-03-11 3:44 ` Weidong Han
2010-03-11 4:52 ` Alex Williamson
2010-03-11 8:30 ` Weidong Han
2010-01-21 15:28 ` Andrew Lyon
2010-01-21 15:04 ` Keir Fraser
2010-01-22 1:35 ` Noboru Iwamatsu
2010-01-21 10:13 ` Weidong Han
2010-01-21 12:09 ` Noboru Iwamatsu
2010-01-21 12:38 ` Weidong Han
2010-01-22 0:23 ` Noboru Iwamatsu
2010-01-21 8:45 ` Andrew Lyon
2010-01-21 10:03 ` Weidong Han
2010-01-21 9:15 ` Keir Fraser
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