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From: Joanna Rutkowska <joanna@invisiblethingslab.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Ian Pratt <Ian.Pratt@eu.citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: A clocksource question
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:49:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B98CABA.3000006@invisiblethingslab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B9877CA.4060204@goop.org>


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On 03/11/2010 05:55 AM, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> On 03/10/2010 05:19 PM, Joanna Rutkowska wrote:
>> On 11/03/2010 02:06, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
>>   
>>> On 03/10/2010 04:52 PM, Joanna Rutkowska wrote:
>>>     
>>>> BTW, how does the clocksource=jiffies work on a pvops kernel in Dom0?
>>>>
>>>>        
>>> Not very well.  clocksource=jiffies just sets up timer interrupts at
>>> approx 100ms intervals and assumes that's 100ms.  You get very low res
>>> timers and timekeeping.
>>>
>>>      
>> So, how to explain that there is no wallclock drift *at all*, even in a
>> long run -- uptime of a few days, in Dom0, when it uses the jiffies
>> source?
>>    
> 
> You said earlier that you were seeing clock drift with
> clocksource=jiffies in dom0.
> 
Correct, sorry. With jiffies I do get a wallclock drift, yes.

>> Anyway, I assume that the "xen" clock source is much more fine grained
>> (1ms?)
> 
> The xen clocksource has nanosecond resolution.  But clocksources are
> different from event sources, and so the ns resolution of time
> measurement doesn't have much relationship to the timer precision (which
> is always going to use the xen event source, which is also ns
> resolution, but it will tend to fold together timer events which are
> closer than 50us).
> 
>>   and so, maybe my kbd hiccups are caused by some code executed by
>> the timer interrupt too frequently (maybe too much code executes per
>> each timer interrupt, because of some other bug)? Just a though...
>>    
> 
> Possibly, but doesn't seem too likely.  Can you tell if your hiccups are
> accompanied by bursts of timer interrupts in /proc/interrupts?
> 
> There is another possibility, which is that the scheduler is getting
> confused by xen's scheduler clock.  Rather than just scheduling based on
> real time, we try to take into account time stolen from a vcpu so that
> it isn't credited against the process (which may have had all its time
> stolen by another domain).  But that could just be confusing things.
> 
> Does this help?
> 
> diff --git a/arch/x86/xen/time.c b/arch/x86/xen/time.c

Will build a new kernel with this and let you know.

j.


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Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-09 10:47 A clocksource question Joanna Rutkowska
2010-03-09 10:50 ` Keir Fraser
2010-03-09 10:54   ` Joanna Rutkowska
2010-03-09 11:06     ` Joanna Rutkowska
2010-03-09 12:07       ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-03-09 12:10         ` Joanna Rutkowska
2010-03-09 15:42       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-03-09 23:36 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-03-10 22:13   ` Joanna Rutkowska
2010-03-11  0:07     ` Dan Magenheimer
2010-03-11  0:15       ` Joanna Rutkowska
2010-03-11  0:21       ` Ian Pratt
2010-03-11  0:44         ` Dan Magenheimer
2010-03-12  0:34           ` Joanna Rutkowska
2010-03-11  0:52         ` Joanna Rutkowska
2010-03-11  1:06           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-03-11  1:19             ` Joanna Rutkowska
2010-03-11  4:55               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-03-11 10:49                 ` Joanna Rutkowska [this message]
2010-03-12  0:27                 ` Joanna Rutkowska
2010-03-12  0:49                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-03-12  0:38                     ` Joanna Rutkowska
2010-03-12 19:02                       ` Joanna Rutkowska
2010-03-12 21:24                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-03-12 21:56                           ` Tobias Geiger
2010-03-12 22:02                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-03-12 21:01                               ` Joanna Rutkowska
2010-03-12 21:13                                 ` Joanna Rutkowska
2010-03-12 23:48                                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-03-13  9:58                                     ` Joanna Rutkowska
2010-03-13 19:30                                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-03-15  6:49                                         ` Tobias Geiger
2010-03-16  6:01                                         ` Joanna Rutkowska
2010-03-17 13:35                                           ` Tobias Geiger
2010-03-17 15:21                                             ` Joanna Rutkowska
2010-03-17 16:20                                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-03-17 17:05                                               ` Joanna Rutkowska
2010-03-17 17:21                                                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-03-17 16:26                                             ` Dan Magenheimer
2010-03-12 22:56                               ` Tobias Geiger
2010-03-11  7:47     ` Keir Fraser
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2010-03-12 11:42 Tobias Geiger

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