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From: Juergen Gross <juergen.gross@ts.fujitsu.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com>
Cc: Keir Fraser <keir.xen@gmail.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: Performance difference between Xen versions
Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:00:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DBE64A6.2080602@ts.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DBE7819020000780003F1B6@vpn.id2.novell.com>

On 05/02/11 09:23, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 02.05.11 at 08:41, Keir Fraser<keir.xen@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> On 02/05/2011 06:31, "Juergen Gross"<juergen.gross@ts.fujitsu.com>  wrote:
>>
>>>>> Is there any easy explanation for this? Both Xen versions are from SLES
>>>>> (SLES11 or SLES11 SP1).
>>>> I think cpufreq handling was off by default in 3.3, and is on by
>>>> default on 4.0. Try turning this off, or using the performance
>>>> governor.
>>> Jan, you got it! With cpufreq=none Xen 4.0 has more or less the same numbers
>>> as 3.3. Now I wonder why the default is so much slower. I looks as if the
>>> hypervisor would run at a lower speed. I can't believe it should behave like
>>> that!
>> It runs at lower frequency unless your test offers sufficient load over a
>> long enough time period. Short microbenchmarks are probably finished before
>> the frequency governor can react.
> Correct. I generally found the default threshold of the ondemand
> governor nor very suitable for optimal performance of short lived
> jobs, and boot all of my systems with "cpufreq=xen:ondemand,threshold=20".

Thanks, Keir and Jan! You both helped me a lot!

I think the short term solution for our problem is to disable the cpufreq
governor on our BS2000 machines.

On the long run I'd like to make the cpufreq governor a feature of the
cpupool. This would enable an administrator of a large Xen machine
with a heterogeneous load to specify which domains should run at
full speed and which are allowed to save energy at the cost of latency.

What do you think?


Juergen

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-02  8:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-29 12:32 Performance difference between Xen versions Juergen Gross
2011-04-29 13:28 ` Keir Fraser
2011-04-29 13:35   ` Juergen Gross
2011-04-29 14:58     ` Keir Fraser
2011-04-29 16:10 ` Jan Beulich
2011-05-02  5:31   ` Juergen Gross
2011-05-02  6:41     ` Keir Fraser
2011-05-02  7:23       ` Jan Beulich
2011-05-02  8:00         ` Juergen Gross [this message]
2011-05-02  8:15           ` Jan Beulich
2011-05-02  8:23             ` Juergen Gross
2011-05-02  8:49               ` Keir Fraser
2011-05-03  3:06                 ` Tian, Kevin
2011-05-06 13:49                   ` Juergen Gross
2011-05-06 14:27                     ` Jan Beulich
2011-05-11  6:08                     ` Tian, Kevin
2011-05-11  6:23                       ` Juergen Gross
2011-05-02 17:52         ` John Weekes
2011-05-02 18:12           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-05-02 18:43             ` John Weekes
2011-05-02 19:16               ` John Weekes
2011-05-02 19:36                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-05-02 19:54                   ` John Weekes
2011-05-03  2:16                   ` Tian, Kevin
2011-05-03  3:04                 ` Tian, Kevin
2011-05-03  3:39                   ` John Weekes
2011-05-03  7:23                     ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]         ` <4DBF13BB.3000309@nuclearfallout.net>
2011-05-03  7:23           ` Jan Beulich

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