From: Juergen Gross <juergen.gross@ts.fujitsu.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: Keir Fraser <keir.xen@gmail.com>, Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>,
"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com>
Subject: Re: Performance difference between Xen versions
Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 15:49:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DC3FC59.3030303@ts.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <625BA99ED14B2D499DC4E29D8138F1505C885A8F53@shsmsx502.ccr.corp.intel.com>
On 05/03/11 05:06, Tian, Kevin wrote:
>> From: Keir Fraser
>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 4:49 PM
>>
>> On 02/05/2011 09:23, "Juergen Gross"<juergen.gross@ts.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/02/11 10:15, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>>> On 02.05.11 at 10:00, Juergen Gross<juergen.gross@ts.fujitsu.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> On the long run I'd like to make the cpufreq governor a feature of
>>>>> the cpupool. This would enable an administrator of a large Xen
>>>>> machine with a heterogeneous load to specify which domains should
>>>>> run at full speed and which are allowed to save energy at the cost of
>> latency.
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>> Certainly an interesting idea, with the question of how an
>>>> implementation of this would look like.
>>> Let me do some research work first :-) I hope to make a proposal soon.
>> I think it's a good idea, and it should be quite possible to implement cleanly.
>>
> yes, this is a good direction. Actually there have been several papers around this topic
> before. Basically it's a reasonable choice to inject higher level knowledge together
> with VMM heuristics, as in virtualization or cloud we usually have an intelligent stack
> which needs to understand many high level requirements/characteristics already. :-)
>
Okay, I think I understand the basic mechanisms of cpufreq stuff now :-)
I propose the following changes:
- Cpupools get a new parameter "cpufreq" which is similar to the hypervisor
boot parameter. It is valid if the hypervisor is responsible for cpufreq
handling (this excludes cases cpufreq=none and cpufreq=dom0-kernel)
- Cpupool0 is initialized with the boot parameter settings, new cpupools are
created with the cpupool0 settings, they get their new cpufreq parameters
via libxl later (this avoids changing the interface for cpupool creation, I
only
need a new interface to set the cpufreq parameters for a cpupool, which
can be used for changing the settings, too. This interface could take the
cpufreq parameters as text string resulting in support of exactly the same
parameters as the hypervisor).
- cpufreq_policy is only spanning multiple cpus of one cpupool (if at all). This
requires a check for the max frequency to be set in a frequency domain
if the frequency of a processor is changing. This is similar to the ondemand
governor, but might cross cpufreq_policy boundaries.
Did I miss anything? Any other suggestions?
Juergen
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-06 13:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-29 12:32 Performance difference between Xen versions Juergen Gross
2011-04-29 13:28 ` Keir Fraser
2011-04-29 13:35 ` Juergen Gross
2011-04-29 14:58 ` Keir Fraser
2011-04-29 16:10 ` Jan Beulich
2011-05-02 5:31 ` Juergen Gross
2011-05-02 6:41 ` Keir Fraser
2011-05-02 7:23 ` Jan Beulich
2011-05-02 8:00 ` Juergen Gross
2011-05-02 8:15 ` Jan Beulich
2011-05-02 8:23 ` Juergen Gross
2011-05-02 8:49 ` Keir Fraser
2011-05-03 3:06 ` Tian, Kevin
2011-05-06 13:49 ` Juergen Gross [this message]
2011-05-06 14:27 ` Jan Beulich
2011-05-11 6:08 ` Tian, Kevin
2011-05-11 6:23 ` Juergen Gross
2011-05-02 17:52 ` John Weekes
2011-05-02 18:12 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-05-02 18:43 ` John Weekes
2011-05-02 19:16 ` John Weekes
2011-05-02 19:36 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-05-02 19:54 ` John Weekes
2011-05-03 2:16 ` Tian, Kevin
2011-05-03 3:04 ` Tian, Kevin
2011-05-03 3:39 ` John Weekes
2011-05-03 7:23 ` Tian, Kevin
[not found] ` <4DBF13BB.3000309@nuclearfallout.net>
2011-05-03 7:23 ` Jan Beulich
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