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From: "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@novell.com>
To: Daniel Castro <evil.dani@gmail.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, seabios@seabios.org
Subject: Re: Ideas for PV on SeaBIOS
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 09:08:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DD4EC2502000078000420F7@vpn.id2.novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikE+98CEbfcW4-M_7ECkiyTmnAMjg@mail.gmail.com>

>>> On 19.05.11 at 07:33, Daniel Castro <evil.dani@gmail.com> wrote:
> In order to give PV Drivers to SeaBIOS we will need to solve a few
> problems, one is the following:
> Does a booting kernel informs the BIOS that it will leave real mode
> and not use it again? When the booting kernel uses CPU real mode for
> the last time, how can we (Xen or SeaBIOS) know that real mode will no
> longer be used, and hence BIOS calls will not be issued?
> We want upon last real mode usage to leave all Xen PV information in a
> clean state, this means, closing the channel and ring between the
> newly created domain and the host system.

How can you be certain an OS won't switch back to real mode even
after an extended period of up-time? Or that such switching back
would affect you (could be calling e.g. the video or PCI BIOS
functions only).

There is INT15 AX=EC00 with BX specifying the target operating
mode, but that's apparently being called only before entering
long mode (i.e. wouldn't cover 32-bit OSes). And it would neither
be a guarantee that the OS might not later return to real mode.

Jan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-19  8:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-19  5:33 Ideas for PV on SeaBIOS Daniel Castro
2011-05-19  7:19 ` Keir Fraser
2011-05-19  8:01   ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2011-05-21  7:39     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-05-21  8:44       ` James Harper
2011-05-23  9:23         ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2011-05-23 10:20           ` James Harper
2011-05-23 10:23             ` Ian Campbell
2011-05-19  7:44 ` James Harper
2011-05-19  8:08 ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2011-05-19  8:17   ` Juergen Gross
2011-05-19  8:20   ` Tim Deegan
2011-05-19  9:36     ` Ian Campbell
2011-05-19 15:02       ` Keir Fraser
2011-05-19 17:00       ` Ideas for PV on SeaBIOS - flush/barrier in QEMU Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-05-19  9:32   ` Ideas for PV on SeaBIOS James Harper
2011-05-21 13:38   ` [SeaBIOS] " Kevin O'Connor
2011-05-21 13:29 ` Kevin O'Connor
2011-05-23  5:24   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-05-23  9:50     ` Ian Campbell

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