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From: Attilio Rao <attilio.rao@citrix.com>
To: Stephan Diestelhorst <stephan.diestelhorst@amd.com>
Cc: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>, KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Xen Devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <Stefano.Stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC V6 1/11]  x86/spinlock: replace pv spinlocks with pv ticketlocks
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:33:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F69E6BB.508@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1363312.nixp29LUbv@chlor>

On 21/03/12 14:25, Stephan Diestelhorst wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 March 2012, 13:49:28 Attilio Rao wrote:
>    
>> On 21/03/12 13:22, Stephan Diestelhorst wrote:
>>      
>>> On Wednesday 21 March 2012, 13:04:25 Attilio Rao wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> On 21/03/12 10:20, Raghavendra K T wrote:
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge<jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rather than outright replacing the entire spinlock implementation in
>>>>> order to paravirtualize it, keep the ticket lock implementation but add
>>>>> a couple of pvops hooks on the slow patch (long spin on lock, unlocking
>>>>> a contended lock).
>>>>>
>>>>> Ticket locks have a number of nice properties, but they also have some
>>>>> surprising behaviours in virtual environments.  They enforce a strict
>>>>> FIFO ordering on cpus trying to take a lock; however, if the hypervisor
>>>>> scheduler does not schedule the cpus in the correct order, the system can
>>>>> waste a huge amount of time spinning until the next cpu can take the lock.
>>>>>
>>>>> (See Thomas Friebel's talk "Prevent Guests from Spinning Around"
>>>>> http://www.xen.org/files/xensummitboston08/LHP.pdf  for more details.)
>>>>>
>>>>> To address this, we add two hooks:
>>>>>     - __ticket_spin_lock which is called after the cpu has been
>>>>>       spinning on the lock for a significant number of iterations but has
>>>>>       failed to take the lock (presumably because the cpu holding the lock
>>>>>       has been descheduled).  The lock_spinning pvop is expected to block
>>>>>       the cpu until it has been kicked by the current lock holder.
>>>>>     - __ticket_spin_unlock, which on releasing a contended lock
>>>>>       (there are more cpus with tail tickets), it looks to see if the next
>>>>>       cpu is blocked and wakes it if so.
>>>>>
>>>>> When compiled with CONFIG_PARAVIRT_SPINLOCKS disabled, a set of stub
>>>>> functions causes all the extra code to go away.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>> I've made some real world benchmarks based on this serie of patches
>>>> applied on top of a vanilla Linux-3.3-rc6 (commit
>>>> 4704fe65e55fb088fbcb1dc0b15ff7cc8bff3685), with both
>>>> CONFIG_PARAVIRT_SPINLOCK=y and n, which means essentially 4 versions
>>>> compared:
>>>> * vanilla - CONFIG_PARAVIRT_SPINLOCK - patch
>>>> * vanilla + CONFIG_PARAVIRT_SPINLOCK - patch
>>>> * vanilla - CONFIG_PARAVIRT_SPINLOCK + patch
>>>> * vanilla + CONFIG_PARAVIRT_SPINLOCK + patch
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>        
>>>> == Results
>>>> This test points in the direction that Jeremy's rebased patches don't
>>>> introduce a peformance penalty at all, but also that we could likely
>>>> consider CONFIG_PARAVIRT_SPINLOCK option removal, or turn it on by
>>>> default and suggest disabling just on very old CPUs (assuming a
>>>> performance regression can be proven there).
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> Very interesting results, in particular knowing that in the one guest
>>> case things do not get (significantly) slower due to the added logic
>>> and LOCKed RMW in the unlock path.
>>>
>>> AFAICR, the problem really became apparent when running multiple guests
>>> time sharing the physical CPUs, i.e., two guests with eight vCPUs each
>>> on an eight core machine.  Did you look at this setup with your tests?
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> Please note that my tests are made on native Linux, without XEN involvement.
>>
>> You maybe meant that the spinlock paravirtualization became generally
>> useful in the case you mentioned? (2 guests, 8vpcu + 8vcpu)?
>>      
> Yes, that is what I meant.  Just to clarify why you do not see any
> speed-ups, and were wondering why.  If the whole point of the exercise
> was to see that there are no perforamnce regressions, fine.  In that
> case I misunderstood.
>    

Yes, that's right, I just wanted to measure (possible) overhead in 
native Linux and the cost of leaving CONFIG_PARAVIRT_SPINLOCK on.

Thanks,
Attilio

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-21 14:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-21 10:20 [PATCH RFC V6 0/11] Paravirtualized ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:20 ` [PATCH RFC V6 1/11] x86/spinlock: replace pv spinlocks with pv ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 13:04   ` Attilio Rao
2012-03-21 13:22     ` Stephan Diestelhorst
2012-03-21 13:49       ` Attilio Rao
2012-03-21 14:25         ` Stephan Diestelhorst
2012-03-21 14:33           ` Attilio Rao [this message]
2012-03-21 14:49             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 2/11] x86/ticketlock: don't inline _spin_unlock when using paravirt spinlocks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 17:13   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-22 10:06     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 3/11] x86/ticketlock: collapse a layer of functions Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 4/11] xen: defer spinlock setup until boot CPU setup Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 5/11] xen/pvticketlock: Xen implementation for PV ticket locks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 6/11] xen/pvticketlocks: add xen_nopvspin parameter to disable xen pv ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 7/11] x86/pvticketlock: use callee-save for lock_spinning Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22 ` [PATCH RFC V6 8/11] x86/pvticketlock: when paravirtualizing ticket locks, increment by 2 Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22 ` [PATCH RFC V6 9/11] x86/ticketlock: add slowpath logic Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22 ` [PATCH RFC V6 10/11] xen/pvticketlock: allow interrupts to be enabled while blocking Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22 ` [PATCH RFC V6 11/11] xen: enable PV ticketlocks on HVM Xen Raghavendra K T
2012-03-26 14:25 ` [PATCH RFC V6 0/11] Paravirtualized ticketlocks Avi Kivity
2012-03-27  7:37   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-28 16:09     ` Alan Meadows
2012-03-28 18:21       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-29  9:58         ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-29 18:03           ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-30 10:07             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-01 13:18               ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-01 13:48                 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-01 13:53                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-01 13:56                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-02  9:51                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-02 12:15                       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-05  9:01                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-05 10:40                         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-05  8:43                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-30 20:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-30 22:07   ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-03-30 22:18     ` Andi Kleen
2012-03-30 23:04       ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-03-31  0:08         ` Andi Kleen
2012-03-31  8:11           ` Ingo Molnar
2012-03-31  4:07     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-03-31  4:09       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-04-16 15:44       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-04-16 16:36         ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2012-04-16 16:42           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2012-04-17  2:54           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-04-01 13:31     ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-02  9:26       ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-05  9:15         ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-02  4:36     ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2012-04-02  9:42     ` Ian Campbell
2012-04-11  1:29     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-03-31  0:51   ` Raghavendra K T

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