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From: David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>
To: Sheng Yang <sheng@yasker.org>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Tim (Xen.org)" <tim@xen.org>, Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xen: always set the sched clock as unstable
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 19:39:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F8872D7.7050507@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+2rt41ctpU-vhR7=u_r45=o8djpq0-5YE5jcj_4FR2bWYu5pQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 13/04/12 19:31, Sheng Yang wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 11:20 AM, David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com
> <mailto:david.vrabel@citrix.com>> wrote:
> 
>     From: David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com
>     <mailto:david.vrabel@citrix.com>>
> 
>     The sched clock was considered stable based on the capabilities of the
>     underlying hardware.  This does not make sense for Xen PV guests as:
>     a) the hardware TSC is not used directly as the clock source; and b)
>     guests may migrate to hosts with different hardware capabilities.
> 
>     It is not clear to me whether the Xen clock source is supposed to be
>     stable and whether it should be stable across migration.  For a clock
>     source to be stable it must be: a) monotonic; c) synchronized across
>     CPUs; and c) constant rate.
> 
>     There have also been reports of systems with apparently unstable
>     clocks where clearing sched_clock_stable has fixed problems with
>     migrated VMs hanging.
> 
>     So, always set the sched clock as unstable when using the Xen clock
>     source.
> 
>     Signed-off-by: David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com
>     <mailto:david.vrabel@citrix.com>>
>     ---
>      arch/x86/xen/time.c |    1 +
>      1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> 
>     diff --git a/arch/x86/xen/time.c b/arch/x86/xen/time.c
>     index 0296a95..8469b5a 100644
>     --- a/arch/x86/xen/time.c
>     +++ b/arch/x86/xen/time.c
>     @@ -473,6 +473,7 @@ static void __init xen_time_init(void)
>            do_settimeofday(&tp);
> 
>            setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_TSC);
>     +       sched_clock_stable = 0;
> 
>            xen_setup_runstate_info(cpu);
>            xen_setup_timer(cpu);
>     --
>     1.7.2.5
> 
> 
> I really prefer to hide nonstop tsc feature from Xen side, rather than
> let Linux kernel to have a condition that "Nonstop TSC feature existed,
> but sched_clock_stable=0".

I disagree.  The decision on whether the clock is stable or not should
be in the Xen clock source code.

David

  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-13 18:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-13 18:20 [PATCH] xen: always set the sched clock as unstable David Vrabel
2012-04-13 18:31 ` Sheng Yang
2012-04-13 18:39   ` David Vrabel [this message]
2012-04-13 18:33 ` Sheng Yang
2012-04-16 11:32 ` Jan Beulich
     [not found] ` <4F8C1F6D020000780007E11A@nat28.tlf.novell.com>
2012-04-16 14:59   ` David Vrabel
     [not found]   ` <4F8C33E0.2080007@citrix.com>
2012-04-16 15:16     ` Tim Deegan
2012-04-16 15:17     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-04-16 16:20       ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-04-16 16:05     ` Dan Magenheimer
     [not found]     ` <049b7b93-fb37-4962-b272-d786e1dcfacb@default>
2012-04-16 16:14       ` Jan Beulich
2012-04-16 16:26       ` David Vrabel
2012-04-16 17:08       ` Tim Deegan
     [not found]       ` <4F8C619C020000780007E34E@nat28.tlf.novell.com>
2012-04-16 17:22         ` Dan Magenheimer
     [not found]         ` <84023b26-a682-44b5-990e-1635da6949ff@default>
2012-04-17  7:27           ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]           ` <4F8D3778020000780007E63A@nat28.tlf.novell.com>
2012-04-17 15:36             ` Dan Magenheimer
     [not found]       ` <4F8C4818.8070603@citrix.com>
2012-04-16 17:30         ` Dan Magenheimer
     [not found]         ` <8a78da52-26b2-42a2-80c7-c1ab8aee86eb@default>
2012-04-17  7:47           ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]           ` <4F8D3C4E020000780007E658@nat28.tlf.novell.com>
2012-04-17 15:42             ` Dan Magenheimer
     [not found]       ` <20120416170827.GE13111@ocelot.phlegethon.org>
2012-04-16 17:52         ` Dan Magenheimer
     [not found]         ` <3e05ae0e-afe4-4ed7-b839-39a343cc0d06@default>
2012-04-16 18:17           ` Tim Deegan
     [not found]           ` <20120416181744.GF13111@ocelot.phlegethon.org>
2012-04-16 23:01             ` Sheng Yang
     [not found]             ` <CA+2rt41pCFV1haMAHo63rY9kx88VgiV419pf8Y=u2cXrdmGOBA@mail.gmail.com>
2012-04-17  0:29               ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-04-17  8:19               ` Tim Deegan

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