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From: Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@amd.com>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] RFC: Linux: disable APERF/MPERF feature in PV kernels
Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 00:44:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FBC16B7.9080307@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120522210031.GA25983@phenom.dumpdata.com>

On 05/22/2012 11:00 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:02:01PM +0200, Andre Przywara wrote:
>> On 05/22/2012 07:18 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
>>> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 06:07:11PM +0200, Andre Przywara wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> while testing some APERF/MPERF semantics I discovered that this
>>>> feature is enabled in Xen Dom0, but is not reliable.
>>>> The Linux kernel's scheduler uses this feature if it sees the CPUID
>>>> bit, leading to costly RDMSR traps (a few 100,000s during a kernel
>>>> compile) and bogus values due to VCPU migration during the
>>>
>>> Can you point me to the Linux scheduler code that does this? Thanks.
>>
>> arch/x86/kernel/cpu/sched.c contains code to read out and compute
>> APERF/MPERF registers. I added a Xen debug-key to dump a usage
>> counter added in traps.c and thus could prove that it is actually
>> the kernel that accesses these registers.
>> As far as I understood this the idea is to learn about boosting and
>> down-clocking (P-states) to get a fairer view on the actual
>> computing time a process consumed.
>
> Looks like its looking for this:
>
> X86_FEATURE_APERFMPERF
>
> Perhaps masking that should do it? Something along this in enlighten.c:
>
>           cpuid_leaf1_edx_mask =
>                   ~((1<<  X86_FEATURE_MCE)  |  /* disable MCE */
>                     (1<<  X86_FEATURE_MCA)  |  /* disable MCA */
>                     (1<<  X86_FEATURE_MTRR) |  /* disable MTRR */
>                     (1<<  X86_FEATURE_ACC));   /* thermal monitoring
>
> would be more appropiate?
>
> Or is that attribute on a different leaf?

Right, it is bit 0 on level 6. That's why I couldn't use any of the 
predefined masks and I didn't feel like inventing a new one just for 
this single bit.
We could as well explicitly use clear_cpu_cap somewhere, but I didn't 
find any code place in the Xen tree already doing this, instead it looks 
like it belongs to where I put it (we handle leaf 5 in a special way 
already here)

>>
>>>> measurement.
>>>> The attached patch explicitly disables this CPU capability inside
>>>> the Linux kernel, I couldn't measure any APERF/MPERF reads anymore
>>>> with the patch applied.
>>>> I am not sure if the PVOPS code is the right place to fix this, we
>>>> could as well do it in the HV's xen/arch/x86/traps.c:pv_cpuid().
>>>> Also when the Dom0 VCPUs are pinned, we could allow this, but I am
>>>> not sure if it's worth to do so.
>>>>
>>>> Awaiting your comments.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Andre.
>>>>
>>>> P.S. Of course this doesn't fix pure userland software like
>>>> cpupower, but I would consider this in the user's responsibility to
>>>
>>> Which would not work anymore as the cpufreq support is disabled
>>> when it boots under Xen.
>>
>> Do you mean with "anymore" in a future kernel? I tested this on
>> 3.4.0 and cpupower monitor worked fine. Right, cpufreq is not
>> enabled, but cpupower uses the /dev/cpu/<n>/msr device file to
>> directly read the MSRs. So I get this output if run on an idle Dom0:
>
> Ahh. Neat. Will have to play with that.

Bad news is we cannot forbid cpupower querying the feature directly 
using the CPUID instruction in PV guests. Only we could patch it to use 
/proc/cpuinfo readout instead, as this reflects the kernel view of 
available features. With my patch aperfmperf is no longer there.

Regards,
Andre.

-- 
Andre Przywara
AMD-OSRC (Dresden)
Tel: x29712

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-22 22:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-22 16:07 [PATCH] RFC: Linux: disable APERF/MPERF feature in PV kernels Andre Przywara
2012-05-22 16:52 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2012-05-22 17:08   ` Malcolm Crossley
2012-05-23  8:10     ` Jan Beulich
2012-05-22 20:46   ` Andre Przywara
2012-05-22 17:18 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-22 21:02   ` Andre Przywara
2012-05-22 21:00     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-22 22:44       ` Andre Przywara [this message]
2012-05-23 13:26         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-24 13:24           ` Andre Przywara
2012-05-29 10:54             ` Andre Przywara
2012-05-23  7:34 ` Jan Beulich
2012-05-23  9:14   ` Andre Przywara
2012-05-23  9:43     ` Jan Beulich
2012-05-23  9:52       ` Andre Przywara
2012-05-23 10:01         ` Jan Beulich
2012-05-23 11:11   ` Andrew Cooper
2012-05-23 12:18     ` Jan Beulich
2012-05-23 13:21       ` Andrew Cooper
2012-05-23 13:31         ` Andre Przywara

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