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From: Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@amd.com>
To: Dario Faggioli <raistlin@linux.it>
Cc: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <Stefano.Stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Juergen Gross <juergen.gross@ts.fujitsu.com>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1 of 3 v5/leftover] libxl: enable automatic placement of guests on NUMA nodes
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:21:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5007FBCE.6000201@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5fa66c8b9093399e5bc3.1342458792@Solace>

Dario,

sorry for joining the discussion so late, but I was busy with other 
things and saw the project in good hands.
Finally I managed to get some testing on these patches.

I took my 8-node machine, alternately equipped with 16GB and 8GB per 
node. Each node has 8 pCPUs.
As a special(i)ty I removed the DIMMs from node 2 and 3 to test Andrew's 
memory-less node patches, leading to this configuration:
node:    memsize    memfree    distances
    0:     17280       4518      10,16,16,22,16,22,16,22
    1:      8192       3639      16,10,16,22,22,16,22,16
    2:         0          0      16,16,10,16,16,16,16,22
    3:         0          0      22,22,16,10,16,16,22,16
    4:     16384       4766      16,22,16,16,10,16,16,16
    5:      8192       2882      22,16,16,16,16,10,22,22
    6:     16384       4866      16,22,16,22,16,22,10,16
    7:      8176       2799      22,16,22,16,16,22,16,10

Then I started 32 guests, each 4 vCPUs and 1 GB of RAM.
Now since the code prefers free memory so much over free CPUs, the 
placement was the following:
node0: guests 2,5,8,11,14,17,20,25,30
node1: guests 21,27
node2: none
node3: none
node4: guests 1,4,7,10,13,16,19,23,29
node5: guests 24,31
node6: guests 3,6,9,12,15,18,22,28
node7: guests 26,32

As you can see, the nodes with more memory are _way_ overloaded, while 
the lower memory ones are underutilized. In fact the first 20 guests 
didn't use the other nodes at all.
I don't care so much about the two memory-less nodes, but I'd like to 
know how you came to the magic "3" in the formula:

> +
> +    return sign(3*freememkb_diff + nrdomains_diff);
> +}

I haven't done any measurements on this, but I guess scheduling 36 vCPUs 
on 8 pCPUs has a much bigger performance penalty than any remote NUMA 
access, which nowadays is much better than a few years ago, with big L3 
caches, better predictors and faster interconnects.

I will now put in the memory again and also try to play a bit with the 
amount of memory and VCPUs per guest.

Regards,
Andre.

-- 
Andre Przywara
AMD-Operating System Research Center (OSRC), Dresden, Germany

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-07-19 12:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-10 15:03 [PATCH 0 of 3 v4/leftover] Automatic NUMA placement for xl Dario Faggioli
2012-07-10 15:03 ` [PATCH 1 of 3 v4/leftover] libxl: enable automatic placement of guests on NUMA nodes Dario Faggioli
2012-07-17 15:55   ` Ian Jackson
2012-07-16 17:13     ` [PATCH 0 of 3 v5/leftover] Automatic NUMA placement for xl Dario Faggioli
2012-07-16 17:13       ` [PATCH 1 of 3 v5/leftover] libxl: enable automatic placement of guests on NUMA nodes Dario Faggioli
2012-07-17 18:04         ` [PATCH 1 of 3 v5/leftover] libxl: enable automatic placement of guests on NUMA nodes [and 1 more messages] Ian Jackson
2012-07-17 20:23           ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-18  0:31             ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-18 10:44             ` Ian Jackson
2012-07-18  0:22           ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-18  8:27             ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-18  9:13             ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-18  9:43               ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-18  9:53                 ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-18 10:08                   ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-18 11:00                   ` Ian Jackson
2012-07-18 13:14                     ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-18 13:35                       ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-19 12:47                       ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-18 13:40                     ` Andre Przywara
2012-07-18 13:54                       ` Juergen Gross
2012-07-18 14:00                       ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-19 14:43                       ` Ian Jackson
2012-07-19 18:37                         ` Andre Przywara
2012-07-21  1:46                           ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-18 10:53                 ` Ian Jackson
2012-07-18 13:12                   ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-18  9:47             ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-19 12:21         ` Andre Przywara [this message]
2012-07-19 14:22           ` [PATCH 1 of 3 v5/leftover] libxl: enable automatic placement of guests on NUMA nodes Dario Faggioli
2012-07-20  8:19             ` Andre Przywara
2012-07-20  9:39               ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-20 10:01                 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-20  8:20             ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-20  8:26               ` Andre Przywara
2012-07-20  8:38                 ` Juergen Gross
2012-07-20  9:52                   ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-20  9:56                     ` Juergen Gross
2012-07-20  9:44                 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-20 11:47                   ` Andre Przywara
2012-07-20 12:54                     ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-20 13:07                       ` Andre Przywara
2012-07-21  1:44                         ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-16 17:13       ` [PATCH 2 of 3 v5/leftover] libxl: have NUMA placement deal with cpupools Dario Faggioli
2012-07-16 17:13       ` [PATCH 3 of 3 v5/leftover] Some automatic NUMA placement documentation Dario Faggioli
2012-07-20 11:07       ` [PATCH 0 of 3 v5/leftover] Automatic NUMA placement for xl David Vrabel
2012-07-20 11:43         ` Andre Przywara
2012-07-20 12:00           ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-20 12:08             ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-23 10:38               ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-23 10:42                 ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-23 15:31                   ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-23 10:23             ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-20 12:14           ` David Vrabel
2012-07-17 15:59     ` [PATCH 1 of 3 v4/leftover] libxl: enable automatic placement of guests on NUMA nodes Ian Campbell
2012-07-17 18:01       ` Ian Jackson
2012-07-17 22:15     ` Dario Faggioli
2012-07-10 15:03 ` [PATCH 2 of 3 v4/leftover] libxl: have NUMA placement deal with cpupools Dario Faggioli
2012-07-10 15:03 ` [PATCH 3 of 3 v4/leftover] Some automatic NUMA placement documentation Dario Faggioli
2012-07-16 17:03 ` [PATCH 0 of 3 v4/leftover] Automatic NUMA placement for xl Dario Faggioli

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