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* Xen Development Projects page
@ 2012-07-30 15:57 Attilio Rao
  2012-07-30 17:00 ` Lars Kurth
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Attilio Rao @ 2012-07-30 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: xen-devel

Hi,
I think it is time we start preparing and managing correctly a Xen 
Development wiki page. We already have one but it is a bit un-organized, 
with stale and poor content.

I wanted to organize the page like that:
- Have upfront a list of tasks, divided by subsystem (es. toolstack, 
hypervisor, domain support, etc.)
- Have the corresponding entries organized like that:
   o Technical contact (this may be optional if we think the idea is 
worthwhile but there is not really someone which can tackle this right 
now). There may be more than one.
   o Description of the issue: the description must be technical and 
give an hint to the contributor, however might not reveal all the 
technical trickery about it. This is to force the novel contributor to 
contact the "technical contact" and work on the issue to get a grasp.
   o Difficulty level. I'm not sure if you like this, but very much I 
think this would be an hint for people that are very new to xen 
development and wants to start from simple projects.

In the end, we can squeeze out Summer of Projects entries from this list 
if we keep it updated well enough and really useful.

What I'm asking you is:
- Do you like the idea to organize the development projects page like that?
- Do you *all* want to contribute with a couple of ideas outlining the 
informations reported above? I don't it is a huge effort if everyone 
contributes at least 1 entry or 2.

Thanks,
Attilio

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* Re: Xen Development Projects page
  2012-07-30 15:57 Xen Development Projects page Attilio Rao
@ 2012-07-30 17:00 ` Lars Kurth
  2012-07-30 17:27   ` Attilio Rao
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Lars Kurth @ 2012-07-30 17:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: xen-devel


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Attilio,

this is a very good idea. I am not 100% convinced that the Dev Home page 
should contain TODO items only. It should point to
a) Conventions (asking questions, building, testing, ...)
b) Design docs (assuming there are any)
c) TODO list

So maybe you need

  * A new page better organized home page (with a good title) and when
    done delete the old one
  * A Xen separate project TODO list

 > I wanted to organize the page like that:
 > - Have upfront a list of tasks, divided by subsystem (es. toolstack, 
hypervisor, domain support, etc.)
I think entries in the list also need to contain the date when created 
such that we can identify and throw out stale ideas
If you want me to, I can create a template to make encoding this easier.

Also feel free to add it to the docs day TODO list. This is a community 
document that is intended for the community and you shouldn't wait for 
me to add stuff.

Lars

On 30/07/2012 16:57, Attilio Rao wrote:
> Hi,
> I think it is time we start preparing and managing correctly a Xen 
> Development wiki page. We already have one but it is a bit 
> un-organized, with stale and poor content.
>
> I wanted to organize the page like that:
> - Have upfront a list of tasks, divided by subsystem (es. toolstack, 
> hypervisor, domain support, etc.)
> - Have the corresponding entries organized like that:
>   o Technical contact (this may be optional if we think the idea is 
> worthwhile but there is not really someone which can tackle this right 
> now). There may be more than one.
>   o Description of the issue: the description must be technical and 
> give an hint to the contributor, however might not reveal all the 
> technical trickery about it. This is to force the novel contributor to 
> contact the "technical contact" and work on the issue to get a grasp.
>   o Difficulty level. I'm not sure if you like this, but very much I 
> think this would be an hint for people that are very new to xen 
> development and wants to start from simple projects.
>
> In the end, we can squeeze out Summer of Projects entries from this 
> list if we keep it updated well enough and really useful.
>
> What I'm asking you is:
> - Do you like the idea to organize the development projects page like 
> that?
> - Do you *all* want to contribute with a couple of ideas outlining the 
> informations reported above? I don't it is a huge effort if everyone 
> contributes at least 1 entry or 2.
>
> Thanks,
> Attilio
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Xen-devel mailing list
> Xen-devel@lists.xen.org
> http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel


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* Re: Xen Development Projects page
  2012-07-30 17:00 ` Lars Kurth
@ 2012-07-30 17:27   ` Attilio Rao
  2012-07-30 17:40     ` Lars Kurth
  2012-07-30 17:42     ` Lars Kurth
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Attilio Rao @ 2012-07-30 17:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: xen-devel, Lars Kurth


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On 30/07/12 18:00, Lars Kurth wrote:
> Attilio,
>
> this is a very good idea. I am not 100% convinced that the Dev Home 
> page should contain TODO items only. It should point to
> a) Conventions (asking questions, building, testing, ...)
> b) Design docs (assuming there are any)
> c) TODO list

More specifically I was referred to make c) and in particular by 
modifying http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Development_Projects for this 
purpose.

>
> So maybe you need
>
>     * A new page better organized home page (with a good title) and
>       when done delete the old one
>     * A Xen separate project TODO list
>

Yes, I'm going with the TODO first, then I can think about organizing 
the DevHome and link to it.

>    *
>
>
> > I wanted to organize the page like that:
> > - Have upfront a list of tasks, divided by subsystem (es. toolstack, 
> hypervisor, domain support, etc.)
> I think entries in the list also need to contain the date when created 
> such that we can identify and throw out stale ideas
> If you want me to, I can create a template to make encoding this easier.

I'm already working on this, what is the quickest way to submit a draft 
to you for review by wiki modifies?

Thanks,
Attilio

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* Re: Xen Development Projects page
  2012-07-30 17:27   ` Attilio Rao
@ 2012-07-30 17:40     ` Lars Kurth
  2012-07-30 17:42     ` Lars Kurth
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Lars Kurth @ 2012-07-30 17:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Attilio Rao; +Cc: xen-devel

On 30/07/2012 18:27, Attilio Rao wrote:
>
> > I wanted to organize the page like that:
> I'm already working on this, what is the quickest way to submit a 
> draft to you for review by wiki modifies?
I was just thinking us using a template such that changing the 
formatting is easier in future. I just copied one, which did not work. 
Five me 5 minutes and I'll do a simple one

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* Re: Xen Development Projects page
  2012-07-30 17:27   ` Attilio Rao
  2012-07-30 17:40     ` Lars Kurth
@ 2012-07-30 17:42     ` Lars Kurth
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Lars Kurth @ 2012-07-30 17:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Attilio Rao; +Cc: xen-devel

On 30/07/2012 18:27, Attilio Rao wrote:
>> I think entries in the list also need to contain the date when 
>> created such that we can identify and throw out stale ideas
>> If you want me to, I can create a template to make encoding this easier.
>
>
> I'm already working on this, what is the quickest way to submit a 
> draft to you for review by wiki modifies?
Actually, just start with the content.
I will make a template later and reformat. That is probably best.
Lars

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